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I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I believe he has a dewalt high torque with Mac cover. But yea other than color they are very similar if not exactly the same.

Silly question, everyone knows red and yellow don't mix. Haha

Well I see acme has the new mid range available for order although it says it's not it stock and arriving soon.

I know there was a time when the LSA was enticing to me as well but in the end it sounded like it was more trouble than it was worth. As far as the two impacts are concerned they both have different strengths and weaknesses. The surge is great for smaller fasteners but if you want to use it for lag bolts there is a size that it physically won't do. I've never used a stealth force but from reviews I've seen it looks like it does well with larger fasteners and can drive them fast. But it seems like certain situations can make it give a lot of feed back to the user and it shakes pretty bad. Personally I like the size and noise level of the surge but I'm not trying to use it for anything thing over a 3" deck screw. I think if I had to drive lags occasionally I would rather run a smaller traditional impact driver than running the larger stealth force.

Yep exactly the way it feels to me just couldnt pin point it haha. Which doesn't really make sense you would think smaller would be better.

The handle almost seems more square but side by side it doesnt look much different than the fuel. I'm sure a person would get used to it but it's kind of strange that the paddle doesn't have a "click"to it.

I find it to have similar power to the fuel when they both have 5.0. Its not a big difference but I think the fuel with a 9.0 seems a little more powerful than the dewalt with a 6.0. Still neither one compares to the flexvolts power. Just FYI because I know you've had some experience with the fuel and prefer the metabo. Also and I can't figure out why because the grip seems like it would be smaller on the dewalt but it feels harder to get a firm grip on.

Sure post this after I pull the trigger on a 6.0 and grinder haha. I assume you were trying to get some runtime numbers with constant use from full to dead battery?

Kudos to acme, ordered Monday night and got it today.

Well I went ahead and placed an order at acme. I have two fuel grinders on my work truck and a 60v I keep in the shop. But we still have two trucks running on dewalt 20v and I grabbed a brushed 20v grinder the other day and was reminded just how fast they burn through batteries. I'm really just looking for similar performance to a fuel and from the sounds of things that about where it'll be if not better. Thanks for the replies.

It's at lowes and acme until the 11th. Acme doesn't have it listed on their main page but if you pull up the grinder it still has the promo.

I would maybe like to take advantage of the free 6.0 battery but I can't seem to find any reviews online of the new dcg413. I know a few guys on here have them I was just wondering what your opinions are.

My biggest concern with that kit would be how a circular saw or recip saw for that matter would run on compact batteries. For home use making a few cuts here and there it's probably fine I just know personally I don't like how under powered compact batteries make some higher draw tools.

For me a fuel grinder with a 5.0 was good enough to no longer carry a corded but it wasn't truly a corded replacement it was just good enough to compromise some power. Now the dewalt 60v I would say is truly a corded replacement when it comes to power but it has size and weight to go with it. Run time of the fuel with a 5.0 and the 60v with a 6.0/2.0 are very similar. I have a 3.0/9.0 flexvolt but ive never put it on my 60v grinder and I haven't done any real grinding with the fuel and 9.0 to compare thier runtimes. I've been told the best power runtime and ergonomics is the metabo but I still like to think I control my addiction so I don't own one yet.

Yea it was still the cheapest way to get a working cordless rotary hammer.

Well I think I figured out why my collet wasn't releasing right. I didn't realize it but the wedge part was under the nut instead of being locked into the nut. Now when I back off the nut it actually helps pulls the wedge out and it's no longer an issue.

I just picked up my first 9.0 a few weeks ago and was pleasantly suprised at the additional power it gives the fuel grinder. It's still not the dewalt 60v but it's a noticeable power difference from a 5.0.

Yep the electronics assembly comes complete with trigger, battery terminal, little black box of podded electronics, light, and stator. The only thing that doesnt come with it is the armature, gear box, and case. As far as I could tell the only way to replace any of these components was to buy the entire assembly pre wired. Which would have been $106 had I not found it on ebay. I guess it takes some of the trouble shooting out of it haha. I took the old assembly back to work, I'll try to post some more pictures of the old stator and electronics. I dont really know what part of it failed but it was all pretty dirty with concrete dust. These are some pictures I took just so I had something to go off of for reassembly.

Sorry didn't get a chance to snap a picture of my fuel at work today but I guess you got your answer.

Well last week one of the guys at work brings me my 2712 fuel rotary hammer "was drilling just fine set it down in between holes and now nothing but the light." It was a factory reconditioned that I picked up cheap a few years back when I still wasn't sold on the idea of a cordless rotary hammer. Well turns out I love the thing and hardly ever use a corded sds anymore. So $80 on ebay for a new electronic assembly and a night of fun and it's back from the dead.

None taken, I'm always open to info. But yep I've had pneumatic die grinders for awhile and while I can't say I've never had a bit get stuck. Like you say you give the end a tap and it releases which is why it was a little annoying when the fuel didn't release that easily. Maybe it's something wrong with my die grinder but I pulled the wedge out and I don't see anything obviously wrong.

I'm hoping that with some use the collet wedge will loosen up a bit. The wrench thing I've found that some wrenches fit but the first 3 I tried didnt, I'm sure it will be fixed by taking a grinder and widening the slot a 1/16th". It just not something I want to do on my new toy, I'll let it get a few scratches first haha.

I don't have a fuel grinder at home but this is what the US brushed model looks like and I'm almost positive the guard set up is the same on the fuel but I'll have to check tomorrow at work. At first I thought maybe the guard had come apart on yours but after looking and mine and yours I don't think that's the case. Strange...

Must be Italian