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That's simply not true. Lithium is lithium, packing more of it into a cell doesn't make it perform any better or worse. It's longevity would be better compared to a smaller celled battery but that's not to say it would perform any better based on what's there. More cells offer better longevity at lower voltage.

Possible but longevity would be greatly reduced. https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries Any potential increse in runtime is minimised by the cost and reduced life span of the battery. Factor in the higher temprature generated after drawing greater current from fewer cells and you have a further decrease of life span. While the salesman would like to offer it as an option to customers, Makita has already (and is still trying to distance itself from) been through battery issues early on when they entered the li-ion market. It would be foolish to leave anything to chance and a battery that doesn't last as long as the user would like would only help to perpetuate a bad reputation.

That's exactly why Makita are reluctant to push bigger batteries based on current technology and why the 9ah rumours are unfounded. Every one I've spoken to (of course I can't verify it but it makes a lot of sense) who works with or for Makita suggest it's not of great importance to them. I've said this earlier on in the thread. Who wants to lug heavy tools around all day just because they're Cordless?

Yes.

Been hearing the same rumor for 18 months and every rep I speak to discredits it. I believe toolaholic kicked off that rumour on a live feed some time ago.

By design all impact drivers should have some back and forth movement in the chuck. The limiting factors will be down to the depth beyond the ball bearing bit retainer before the 'chuck' bottoms out and the amount on the bit beyond the retainer indentation.

Milwaukee replace their units so frequently to keep their market happy; sure they improve them but they also know Milwaukee 'fan boys' will buy the latest for the sake of having the latest. Take a look at Instagram every time a new Milwaukee tool is released... Everyone has got to have this or that tool. It's a trend I've become very wise to but it must move so many units for TTI because I see it so often. Makita aren't as frequent and slower on a global roll out but after having used much of both brands I know which of the two I'd rather put my money on.

Very disappointed to see we're getting everything last if at all again. There's items I had to buy from abroad 6-8 months ago and they're still not out here. Really hoped to see the DHR282.

It's just a knock off.

The price whatever it might be doesn't really matter. It just seems that it (will be) an expensive tool for people who don't really want them any more. A good 75% of contractors I work for have banned them on site completely because of the hot works issue. Would have been better to look at a cordless TCT alternative.

It's available from the 30/10/18 so it's perfectly reasonable some websites would be listing it already. It's more than one so there's no need for you to be so smug.

I've not used those particular batteries but I have a few 'waitley' (as pictured) branded knock offs and have used them without issue.

I've had another look and the only place I can find it cheaper is the Ukraine at €400 bare.

Link? Or are you talking about the price quoted on the Makita mailer? https://www.passiontec.be/makita-dlw140z.html €999.95

Anything in England has a 6 year warranty as standard.

Passiontec

I think this is an absolute miss in terms of hitting the market right. Found a listing for the Cordless cut off saw... £956 bare. I think that is an absolutely ridiculous figure. I also think they would have been better served developing a smaller 18x2 TCT Cut off saw

I'm confused, are you saying I'm not entitled to an opinion because you don't agree with it? The sales man @kornomaniacsells tools all day long; he'll have a clearer picture of what they're selling and to whom, I unfortunately have to make my money by using them and that is my opinion, like it or not. What about rather have a bulky HD compared to a few more slimmer/lighter/less-bulky batteries? You've moved the goal posts entirely to better support what you're saying. Most people would rather be cordless than corded; HD packs, depending on application still wont last you all day, you're going to need more than one or you'll need power to recharge them. Sure you'll need less to (as I suggested) run a 9" grinder but you certainly won't get away with only one for the average day at work. Consider it 4-5 (heavy, bulky) HD batteries, or 4-5 compact batteries and a charger. It offers little benefit given the cost of them and greatly reduces the compact and lightweight factor that used to be a massive selling point of cordless tools. As I've said, I work along side people that use tools that need a lot of juice, if you offer them a £200 angle grinder + £1000 worth of HD batteries or a £120 corded model... I'll let you decide which one wins.

Really doesn't bother me. With the weight and bulk of some of the newer HD packs coming I'm struggling to see the benefit of cordless tools. Can't remember the last time I didn't have power, besides the minor inconvenience of having to run an extension, I'd prefer my tools to be compact and lightweight for all day use, not clunky, bulky and heavy with a battery the size of a house brick on the end of it. . And for the benefit of what, 9" grinders than can manage 20 or so minutes of runtime on a near £300 battery? Meh; vanity project, no more practical than carrying 5-6 batteries and a charger around with you.

Doubtful. Normally something is leaked well in advance of a product release, even when only in alpha stages. The only things I've heard about new batteries being developed were said to have been scrapped and taken back to the drawing board. I've heard many different things. As it is the latest I've been told is expect nothing until the end of next year. We shall see.

Not really. Hasn't said anything we don't already know.

The 12ah are listed in the UK for £178.64. https://www.powertoolsuk.co.uk/bosch-1600a016gu-procore-battery.html That's Almost £100 less than the Milwaukee offering and £121 less than the DeWalt. Unfortunately Bosch don't offer the line up that either of these do but that's not to say they couldn't. The 8ah is around £130. No sign of the 16A charger but list price is €130 - very expensive for a charger. I'd rather buy another 8ah and just wait a little longer (which will be better for the battery health in the long term) for the slower charger.

Do we think perhaps Bosch might have something to say about that? It's been around for some years but I've never actually seen one.

The 7" and 9" is being re-released with AWS.