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  1. Blinded by Brand Loyalty

    Before I begin, let me recognize the fact that many of us here and on similar forums are somewhat receptive to owning tools from different brands, being capable of recognizing that the "best" isn't always proprietary to a favored tool brand. Also, though this thread will naturally concern tools in general and power tools in particular, a representative example of how close-minded some people are can be had in the endless debates on which truck brand is best. Ford guys stick to Ford, GM to GM, Dodge to Dodge (or Ram to Ram I guess nowadays), etc. So, how many of you have met someone so blinded by loyalty to a certain brand that they refuse to acknowledge that sometimes that brand comes up short? Such consumers sometimes waste tons of money on products that receive poor reviews or that are inferior to offerings by competing brands (sometimes even at lower cost), yet become rabidly defensive when confronted with facts or differing opinions. In this thread I'll share my thoughts on a few of these types of individuals as well as their potential motivations for staying loyal to their preferred brand at all costs. First, a couple of valid (IMHO) reasons: 1) Wanting to restrict the number of cordless tool platforms: cordless tools take batteries which can be quite expensive and which usually require separate chargers between brands and/or voltages. Even if a tool company doesn't offer the absolute best tool for the job, necessity sometimes dictates that a slightly inferior tool is purchased for the sake of battery compatibility. For example, a company that runs M18 tools might not desire to buy DeWalt nailers, even though they seem to perform better than Milwaukee's current offerings, since doing so would incur additional costs to buy and maintain batteries for those. Another example might be considering whether or not to buy a FlexVolt circular saw when one already has 20v Max. Sure the FV battery can be used with existing 20v Max tools, but the reverse isn't true, making the jump into the new system pricey if only one tool is to be purchased. 2) Availability: the availability of tool brands is subject to a person's location. In some areas, one brand may be easy to obtain while another may be impossible to find locally. Add in factors such as authorized repair centers and other customer service aspects of ownerships and use, and the effect that a brand's availability has on loyalty is evident. While home improvement centers have made common tool brands readily available in most areas, they have also limited that same availability to an extent. Consider Home Depot's two proprietary brands, Ryobi and Ridgid. Both have a loyal customer base that swears by the tools, with the former appealing more toward novices with some definite professional use and the latter sometimes considered an underrated brand that competes with premium brands. Both are only available at Home Depot, however, limiting owners of said brands to shopping there in person or online. This has the opposite effect of limiting those brands' appeal to tool users who might otherwise be interested. As a Milwaukee owner, should I buy the fan that my local hardware store carries and have instant gratification? Or should I order a Ridgid version, wait for it to be shipped, and have to use the internet if I have any issues with it? I had the opportunity to expand into Metabo tools for cheap a couple of years ago, but passed on it as I knew that I'd be unable to find additional tools and accessories locally once the supply ran out. Now, on to some less logical reasons: 1) Country of origin (COO): let's face it, few tools, and fewer power tools are domestically manufactured anymore. Yet some people may point towards COO as a reason to only buy one brand while ignoring another. I have a large number of DeWalt tools and often point out that some are assembled in the US. I usually add the fact that some others are made in Mexico but most are of Chinese origin. Why? Because I'm misinforming people who are less familiar with tools if I imply that DeWalt produces all of their tools here in America. I've read comments around the internet from people slamming Milwaukee because of its parent company while praising DeWalt for supporting the local economy. Some people even confuse a brand's name with its COO; I'm sure some of you have met a person who though Milwaukee tools were made in Wisconsin. The same holds true for Bosch (German), Makita (Japan), and other brands whose names denote the country they were originally founded in. For better or worst, the majority of power tools are sourced from mainland Asia now, regardless of whether the name sounds American, German, Japanese, or Ethiopian. 2) Tenuous claims: most companies market their tools as being superior to other brands, often using data that is skewed to put them in the best light. Some people fall victim to this tactic, considering x brand to just be better than y brand because the packaging says so. Amusingly, these same people are quick to call foul when another brand claims to offer something "their" brand doesn't. Since I've mainly covered brands that most of us recognize as solid performers, I'll pick on the perennial whipping boy of tool retailers: Harbor Freight. Harbor Freight seems to rely a lot on having the best prices, often coupled with deep discounts making good deals absolute bargains. In turn, they gain a lot of loyal fans who stop there before even considering another retailer, since they just assume that no one can beat them. This tactic has doubtlessly led to decent sales on their newest cordless tools despite the fact that more tried offerings from the likes of DeWalt and Milwaukee can be had at little, if any, more cost. I can't name how many times I've heard someone lavishing praise on Harbor Freight while dismissing the very thought of paying a little more for a lot more quality. Deceptive ads comparing tools and accessories to name brands costing much more leads people to believe that they are getting more for their money. In some cases, yes. In many, no. 3) "'Cause I said so": this is akin to the truck brand argument touched upon in the opening paragraph. Some people just allow their experience and pigheadedness to make them oblivious to reality. I have owned DeWalt and have had no problems with their cordless tools. I also own Milwaukee (albeit much fewer tools) but have an issue with the trigger on an impact wrench. Should I sell my red tools and badmouth the brand as producing substandard garbage? Of course not. Should I place both my yellow and red tools on a pedestal and declare them vastly superior to all tools because they are mine? No, most major tool brands, even lesser tiered ones such as Porter Cable and Ryobi, offer exceptional value to customers, and no amount of he said, she said will change that. In other words, let our experiences enlighten us, but we should never refrain from trying out something different if we need to. 4) "It's the best, why buy less?": this can sometimes be justified by the want or need to restrict platforms, but if we find ourselves buying a $300 tool for a one-off project because it is red, when a green one can be had with battery and charger for half the price, we might be drinking too much Kool-Aid. This is the most subjective entry on this list as it really does depend on a number of variables, but it could be viewed as compromising versus not doing so. Brand loyalty sometimes finds us choosing a certain tool not because it is truly needed but because it is the best compromise (even if it is overkill) and it's offered in our favorite color. If I need to drill a few holes in masonry but lack a hammer drill, do I buy the M18 Fuel SDS-Plus, or consider the much less expensive Ryobi? If I'm going to use it more than once, maybe. If I'm not even certain I'll keep it afterward, why waste the money? Ultimately, we decide what is worth spending our hard earned money on. Brand loyalty can be advantageous to our bank accounts but it can also drain them. In a similar manner it can make us appear to be snobs, or worse fools, especially when two hardheaded people with different opinions start arguing over whose tools are better. I guess it's all part of the joy in having so many options available, though; maybe it's me who is the fool writing such a lengthy post about this.
  2. Hey everyone, so here it is. What benefits would you like to have when you buy your tools? Be it power tools, hand tools, accessories, etc. So far all I can think of is extended full coverage warranty for free by whomever you buy the tool from for power tools, and lifetime warranty for hand tools. What else could you possibly want? Thoughts anyone?
  3. hoodie from 3in1 jacket

    I have 3 heated hoodies from Milwaukee (over the years have accumulated them) and one of them is the one that comes with the 3in1 jacket and its by far the best of all of them. How and where do I find just the hoodie from this kit as I have looked far and wide and only find the normal one. For all of the nay-sayers the hoodie in the kit has the tougher lining on the front pockets and the bottom of the arms.
  4. Question about brushless drills

    I have a couple Milwaukee 18v brushless drills that have started acting up, or rather, not at all, for really short periods. Simple explanation is that very occasionally they just stop running for a little bit. They're not low on battery power, I always check that first. They just stop running for about 20-30 seconds, sometimes taking the battery out and putting it back fixes this, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes the light on the underside will come on when I squeeze the trigger, sometimes it doesn't. Just wondering if this has happened to anyone else and what the causes might be.
  5. Surge vs. Stealth Force?

    I'm probably going to get into one of these brands and figure this will be a decision once I purchase a combo kit. I don't care about other tools in the platform as I use corded for most everything aside from impacts/drills. In all honesty Ridgid appeals to me more due to the LSA. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!
  6. The title says it all. I'm considering buying a pulse driver in the eventual future and figured I'd gather opinions. I'm currently invested in Milwaukee with two 9.0Ah and three 5.0Ah batteries, and have two 4.0Ah and one 2.0Ah Ridgid batteries. However, Ryobi offers some unique tools, so eventually Lime Green tools may supplement the Yellow, Red, and Orange ones. Conveniently, all three companies have a version of the pulse driver--the Fuel Surge (Milwaukee), Stealth Force (Ridgid), and Quiet Strike (Ryobi). Intuition tells me to buy the Ridgid kit as a way to amass more batteries and expand that system. I really don't need the Milwaukee and lack any compact batteries to use with it. Meanwhile, Ryobi mainly appeals to me for the niche items they offer like the glue gun and inflators, not core tools. Essentially, I've kept the bulk of my cordless tool collection Yellow. Red crept in with outstanding deals (over $1900 in tools for a little over $900), and Ridgid was a recent addition for the sake of comfort. Naturally, DeWalt does not currently offer a competing model so I'm left wondering: go cheap, go middle-of-the-pack, or go Red?
  7. Hi People, First things first, I'm and electrician Based in NZ and all my current power tools are DeWalt XR (pretty much the same as 20V Max). I'm in the market for an SDS plus Rotary hammer, and need some advice on which to go for. i'm looking at either the DeWalt Flexvolt SDS plus kit with 2 x 9.0ah batteries and a charger for $1200.00 NZD, or a Milwaukee M18 Fuel CHPX with 2 x 5.0ah batteries and a charger for $980.00 NZD. i'm constantly drilling 25mm (1") holes so the smaller DeWalt 18V SDS plus just won't do, therefore either way i'm going to need to buy into another battery platform. in the future I will also be in the market for a recip saw, grinder and right angled drill (Milwaukee hole hawg or Dewalt Stud and Joist drill) so when choosing a new platform would need to consider this also. I can't find any comparisons online for the two rotary hammers so what do you guys think would be the best choice?
  8. M12 Fuel Ratchet, Packout, ETC.

    Kinda cool... the Milwaukee rep sent me an email with some of the pricing for Milwaukee's new tools. Also, some of the specs for their new M12 ratchets, which I had not heard until now. Check out the photo below!
  9. Die Grinder

    So this got dropped off by the Milwaukee rep... I guess I have not done too much research on it. Does anyone have any info (good or bad) on it? Thanks, FB82
  10. cordless Tool Platforms

    What is the best tool platform. Debatable but manufactures have there strengths and unfortunatlly have there weaknesses I perfer Makita, Dewalt etc what do you perfer and what are your opinions.
  11. Worst Milwaukee Tool

    Not trying to crap on Milwaukee here, but I am just curious about tools that people have owned that didn't turn out so good? For me, I wasn't impressed with their M12 Vac or the original M18 blower. The blower was okay, but in my opinion that vacuum was terrible... it struggled with even the smallest of tasks, in my opinion. FB82
  12. This monster comparison is out biggest yet! 7 brands. Mike and I have put in 75 hours all up ... :/
  13. Fuel Nailers

    Can anyone give me some input on the Milwaukee Fuel nailers? I see at Home Depot they have the 16g angled from $259.00 on sale. I have read a few reviews from people that don't like them..... Thanks, FB82
  14. Custom work bench diy

    made these custom work benches and painted them, then sprayed on the logos over custom made stencils, also added lockable castor wheels! plan on making a metallica edition one soon.
  15. Tool Cases

    So I bought a super hole hawg, and a deep cut band saw. Just bare tools. But I want the cases for them. Does anyone know where I can buy the cases for them?
  16. Just wanted to get some opinions on which way to go between the 12v brushless Fuel impact/hammer drill combo kit by Milwaukee and Makita's 18v brushless sub-compact drill/impact combo. Milwaukee has a sale at my Home Depot where the 12v Fuel is $169, while Makita's sub-compact kit comes with a free third battery for $229. I already have Milwaukee's surge/hammer drill 18v combo and a Fuel circ. saw, as well as Hitachi's Triple Hammer, so I'm not looking to expand much (if at all) in either the Milwaukee 12v or the Makita 18v (knock on wood). They both feel great ergonomically, and appear to have similar specs. I know Milwaukee's 12v Fuel has been out for 3-4 years, but they told me they don't have any plans to come out with newer versions of their Fuel fasteners. Both of these deals are limited time, so I'd greatly appreciate honest opinions. Thank you!
  17. Which mitre saw to get??

    Hi guys, I can't decide what to get... at first I was set on getting the 10 inch Milwaukee fuel imported( I'm in Europe, Ireland) As I firmly believe that cordless is the way to go. But have since started to change my mind based on 2 reasons 1. Dust collection is a huge factor for me as my current older DeWalt saws dust collection is shite! Therefore I'll be plugging the extractor in anyways. 2. I have no other m18 tools and I'm just not sure how accurate/stay accurate the saw will be when compared to the two I mention below. I'm a cabinet maker by trade so it's for clean accurate work is mostly what this saw will see. The capacity is for when cutting cornice/moulding or with the max width that I can cut an 18mm gable at. The two other options are the 120 Kapex or the 12 inch Bosch axial glide saw. Without any stand, this is approx what each would cost me. Kapex- 940 euro Bosch- 780 euro Milwaukee- 1100 euro APPROX import charges n shipping are a big factor Bosch Pros. Once set up should stay accurate with minimal flexing due to its design. Largest capacity Great for against a wall/someone's hallway Cheapest option Cons. Heavy/bulky for carrying around The potential for blade wobble since its 12inch(has anyone noticed this????) Kapex Pros. Presume its the best dust collection Easy mitre/bevel adjustments Lighter easier carry around Cons. Not as much cut capacity. Expensive for what it is I think? Milwaukee Pros Cordless-huge advantage at times but not sure how much I'll benefit from it. Light easy transport Compact Cons Price Hassel of importing Accuracy? Any help, info, reviews, pointers, personal experience or do's/don'ts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance Jack.
  18. New to the forum but not TIA

    Hi TIA Crew, I'm a long time tools in action social media subscriber but I'm new to the forums. Little bit about myself: I'm a custom millwork & metal fab engineer for a small company in MA that designs, builds, and installs high end projects. I've completed tons of projects for: baseball, hockey, and football stadiums...Airport restaurants and kiosks...College dining halls and servery's....Hotels and Restaurants. (Ex: Fenway Park, TD Garden, Comerica Park, Reagan National Airport, New Orleans Int Airport, Columbia University, Harvard University and many more). I may be the engineer but I also love to use my hands, when I'm not using CAD I have a impact driver or Mig Welder in my hand. If you want it done right you gotta do it yourself . Also a car-guy --- I have a 72' Plymouth Roadrunner 340 4bbl. Let me know what your tearing the streets up with. Anyways, psyched to jump aboard the forum! -Tyler
  19. College DIY'er

    Hi I'm Brice, I'm a engineering student in college and love making stuff. Im still learning quite a bit so small, simple questions may come up then I'll have an in-depth conversation about what I do know. I will probably visit in large swings as my interests vary, and when they vary I swing my attention, time, and money to that interest. They range from tools, bikes, boots, anything leather, school, dogs, trucks, working out, guns, and hiking. So when I'm interested in tools, I will visit and be active often, if I'm not I will be gone for a bit. I'll talk about all of those interests, but in terms of tools I am big in to Milwaukee. I have mostly 12v but I am starting to get some 18v for this christmas and the string trimmer once i have enough money. (see: college student) I like organization, however I am horrible at doing it. I have a constant battle between my garage tool boxes, and my truck tool box. I hope I can be a positive addition to this forum, get some great ideas, and meet some great people. I also attached a pic of my dog cause she is beautiful, and was going to show my toolboxes but cant find a pic right now. -Brice
  20. Hey Crew, I'm debating as to which one I should get. I really like the compact size and weight of the DeWalt 20v, problem is that I don't have any DeWalt 20v tools (I've given them to my brother after going red) I already of a butt load of Milwaukee Fuel tools and batteries, so that's a plus in the Milwaukee direction. How much bigger is the Milwaukee compared to the DeWalt? If the size is kinda close, I think I'll stick with Milwaukee. I prefer the DeWalt for what I will be using it for (mainly cutting 2x4 and some trim work) I haven't went down the Miter Saw aisle at my HD in a while. Do they have the M18 Fuel Miter over there?
  21. hahahha. I saw this & it was actually very informative and supper funny haha. Milwaukee 9.0 teardown/test. Watch and let me know what you think.
  22. Acme Tool ad

    Saw this ad on acme tools and though it was kind of funny have a good halloween everybody Link : http://www.acmetools.com/blog/pumpkin-carving-milwaukee-m12-cordless-tools/?cm_mmc=Spop-Email-_-161031 Halloween Sitewide Ending Soon-_-Active
  23. I'd really like to see milwaukee make a table saw, I know I'm not alone.
  24. As you know Dewalt just came out with their cordless miter saw, the Flex Volt. Milwaukee just came out with their cordless miter saw and the 9Ah battery. Just want to hear all your opinions on which saw you would get. We just had the chance last week to look at them both. There are pro's and con's to both. Just want to hear everyone's feedback. Do you own one? If you bought one, which would you go with? Just curious.
  25. Impact wrench Fight

    Ok I am partners with Tool Barn and they sent me three impact wrenched to test out and review. I got the makita brushless, the Milwaukee brushless and the dewalt brushless. All 1/2 impacts. They sent me the wrong dewalt so I don't know about it yet but here are my thoughts. The makitas grip is the best. The Milwaukee definitely has more power and feels like it has more power. The makita does have three modes and the Milwaukee only has two. I don't like that you can't feather the makita like you can on the Milwaukee.
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