kanxrus Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 HERE IS A SIMPLE RUNTIME TEST TO SEE HOW MANY HOLES PER CHARGE FROM DEWALT'S DC9180 XRP LITHIUM ION, DC9096 XRP NiCd BATTERY, AND THE DC9099 COMPACT NiCd BATTERY. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro-RWJXI-eU## THE DEWALT DC9099 (1.7Ah) DRILLED 88.5 HOLES, OR 52 HOLES PER Ah. THE DEWALT DC9096 (2.4Ah) DRILLED 121.5 HOLES, OR 52 HOLES PER Ah. THE DEWALT DC9180 (2.2Ah) DRILLED 124.5 HOLES, OR 56 HOLES PER Ah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejeckert Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Did you do a test with the DC9181 18v Lith Battery that comes with the DCD760KL (Standard Battery). Dewalt doesnt ship a kit with the DC9180...my opinion a mistake but it is heavier (.65lbs more than the DC9181 making the DCD760 4.65lbs and would be more expensive) however would offer a higher Ah runtime. I wonder if the DC9180 18v Lith Battery also adds more torque? This was my hang up when comparing the Makita BDF452HW which weights 3.5lbs but is nowhere near the quality but the price, torque, runtime, and weight considered in I believe the Makita is a better value...especially if it takes the DC9180 battery to give the DCD760 the runtime and torque to beat it out. JC can you do a head to head with the Dewalt DCD760 using the DC9180 Battery vs the Makita BDF452HW? Your standard Torque and hole test. I think your test tells the real story. I really love the DCD760 the build quality and speed are second to none but the torque for my job banging out 2" Holes in countertops is my typical use. The DCD760 is faster but I have not ran a hole saw test between the Makita BDF452HW. I would be curious to see how well the DCD760 would do with the DC9180 Battery. Let us know...thanks JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanxrus Posted February 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Sorry, I am currently not doing any testing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejeckert Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Bummer!!! I was hoping to see this test...well if you ever do it throw in the Makita BDF452HW to see how it fairs. I bet the DeWalt would win in all...torque and runtime! Kinda sick of seeing the Makita get all the nods! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadhog96 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Heck forget about he Makita, I'd just like to see a comparison between the DC9180 battery vs DC9181 with the DCD760 to see what kind of difference it would make. May help decide what batteries to buy when the time comes for replacements seeing how the charger will do either one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtec Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 The DC9181 will give you about half the runtime of the DC9180 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucko Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Question, I have seen in this forum again and again the Amp/hours of the DC9180 referred to as 2.2 but this page from support.dewalt.com says they are 2.4. The same as the DC9096. http://support.dewalt.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1889/~/amp-hours-of-dewalt-batteries Who is correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanxrus Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Madtec might have a better explanation. The link you provided shows the DC9181 as a 1.1 ah, double that and you get 2.2ah for the DC9180. That's why it makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtec Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 Yes, the DC9180 is 2.2ah, that is simply a typo on the website, hope this clarifies it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midogrumpy Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 wrong DC9180 and in Europe DE9180 has 2,0Ah greetings mike (by the way; I already have every 18V slide on tool that is available right now; very good impression !) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtec Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 Yep, it surely is, because you can either get A123 or Sony cells in the DE9180. per the new 18v line, which one is your favorite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucko Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Thanks. This is good to know. I wonder how the 2.2 lasts longer than the 2.4 in the drill test? I was under the impression that more amp hours meant more run time. Perhaps it is because of the specific load that the drill puts on it? Maybe with a different tool that has a higher draw like the DC390 saw the results would be different? And thanks for the great site and great reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aprelia Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 wrong DC9180 and in Europe DE9180 has 2,0Ah The reason it's 2,0Ah in EU and 2,2 in NA is because of regulations. Batteries are exact same inside. EU has stricter laws regarding advertising specs, that's why 12v/20v MAX won't fly there. From my memory of old european import rules for Bosch, the specs must show nominal values, not maximum values. The battery is guaranteed to supply certain amount of power at capacity X, after this capacity is depleted the battery will still work but produce less power than the nominal value. So if you use the battery in a cordless circ saw you will mostly likely get 2Ah until the blade starts binding, but in a flashlight you will get 2.2Ah, regardless if it's a UK or NA battery. By specing it as 2,0 the company is protected from lawsuits for under-performance. I like this, I think such rules should be implemented in NA, so that the tools perform as advertised or better. Unfortunately here they perform ALMOST as advertised or worse. I also think the tool output power should be printed on the tool and officially regulated by PTI, ANSI or some other non-profit. Honest advertising is always good, false advertising hurt everyone. I'm looking at you, Milwaukee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golden valley const. Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 One battery might be 2.4 ah under very light load (flashlight) and only 1.8ah under very heavy load, while another might be 2.2 under light and 2.0 under heavy. Some manufacturers show these discharge curves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgemike Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Can some one explain 18 volt lithium and 18 volt lithium xrp they have the samepart number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanxrus Posted September 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 As far as I know, the DC9181 is the compact 18v lithium ion (6 cells) the DC9180 is the XRP lithium Ion battery (12 cells) XRP- Xtended Runtime Performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtec Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 I think he was inquiring the difference between the 18v "nano" and the 18v XRP having the same p/n, anyway, PM replied..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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