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Fuel Gen 2. Those 2 extra amp/hours go a long way to offset not having that 3.0 battery. Plus, if you're a burgeoning DIY'er, there will be situations where you will want the power. The Fuel Gen 1 is great, I have it, and love it. But there are a few projects that I've done where I've truly needed the extra power and coveted the 1100 in/lbs Makita and now the 1200 in/lbs Fuel. I say all this, but you will be happy with the performance of either, either way. Go with you consumerist's gut on this one. And remember, on those big jobs, use the safety handle!

Nice score! What luck? I'm eyeing those too. Weird question: Apart from the extra batteries, would you have preferred the combo kit over the split kit? Or no?

They really did upgrade the tools too! And no one is recognizing that. I'm curious to know if I can interchange the impact mech on mine. Not that I need to. The torque specific potential is AWESOME for the impacts--the benefits are great. I wonder if there is potential to upgrade to real-time torque feedback. While I'd truly love to have the spare cash to toss at such tool tech (I don't necessarily need), I just tossed a bunch of dough at M18 Fuel stuff (and the 2630 circ-saw) and I feel very little (zero) regret about just purchasing my e-hem "puny" 750 in/lbs drill and 1600 in/lbs 3-mode impact just before finding out the updated versions are coming out soon. I would brag about the kit yesterday, I'll brag about it tomorrow. Never scoff at a Z06 Corvette because there is a Z07 across the street. It's the driver that matters. The vehicle is just a tool. You know, it is nice to know you're in the battery line in case you do need to upgrade. All this is very exciting. Now if they would just put out some nailers! And that 9.0 battery! I just need 1! If they were smart, they'd put it out before Christmas.

I totally agree with you Comp, I just think it's a matter of personal perspective. Do I expect to be an early adopter, heck no. Do I think it's necessary to get work done, no. I really don't like smart phones either. I wish people would still talk like they used to in public. Prolly gonna go back to a flip-phone after this contract. Heck, I think TV and video games hurt our society more and more everyday. But, there are advantages and disadvantages to all technology. I miss kids just playing in a creek, building dams, being able to knock on a stranger's door, not fearing the outside, being able to do math without a calculator. I miss not having to give out your ss# for everything. Most especially, I despise Email! And not having to be at the beck-and-call of a cell phone. Yet, there are advantages to these things beyond the individual experience. I know when my families safe, etc... While I personally like my indulgent, introspective, creative, quiet time without distractions, a bit (not all) of this tech-junk is making progress the rule rather than the exception. The bosch wireless battery-charger is a gimmick. The torque safety on Makita, progress. Diseases are being cured left and right, there is less violent death and hunger in the world than ever before in history, more education, and more safety. But we are more detached, more suspicious, more stand-offish, less friendly, quicker to snap, less polite and compromising, and much more self-indulgent than ever before. I agree with you profoundly, but I also agree with the other side. I believe contradictions can co-exist. To each his own, as long as it doesn't step on anyone else's toes. Still, my kids gonna be hiking and camping and playing in the creek before he owns a TV or a phone or a computer or a video-game console. Heck, he's 22 mo. old and he just steered his first tractor last week (wish it were and ox and yoke. His first tools will be manual, to be certain! We all gotta learn to crawl before we walk... then we can get Milwaukee and start to Run!!! Its all about where we stand and standing for something we've looked deeply into. Cheers!

First off, GREAT WRITE-UP, Nalu! Second, I think, as far as some comments go, perspective is way off here. If you don't want it or don't need it, then it's not for you, but it's not a gimmick. Some companies buy HUGE quantities of tools at a time every year or so. When I say huge, I mean imagine 100,000 kits +/- at a time. Think Verizon, TVA or Duke/Progress Energy. Think infrastructure installation and regional residential installation. Think Exxon or Shell. Think global hotel chains. These tools are perfect for that. And maybe a dream come true to those at the top of the corporate purchasing chain. I've read before that the difference in choosing one cordless brand over another might be getting 1 or 2 more high-energy-demand holes sunk on a single battery charge. Imagine being able to tweak your tool and being able to promise 4, 5, maybe 10 more holes or bolts tightened and torqued because the tool performs precisely as you need it to with no waste. That could mean jobs getting done more timely, the tool or battery lasting a few months more, and maybe saving the company hundreds of thousands if not millions. Not to mention, being able to assure the tool is not undergoing unnecessary wear and tear. And, with tracking, more assured general property protection which may equate to insurance savings--especially with torque protection. If those things are not for you, then by all means, don't go for it. But if you get a lot of mileage out of your tools, using them everyday, and in a variety of applications, then this should make more than a little sense to you. Perhaps DIY-ers needn't see this as "have to have," but then again, many DIY-ers don't really need a drill with 1200 in/lbs of torque or an impact with 1800 in/lbs. Often times, they just like to have them. Still, this technology should prove useful to the DIY tinkerer and the lone handyman as much as a large corporation. It's just progress. I love to recall a decade ago when cell phones "were for women and soccer moms" and every other truck you saw had a sticker on it saying something against cell phones. Today, the person one is most likely to see talking and texting while driving are dudes driving their work trucks and on-duty cops. In other words, don't bang it till you try it, or you may just be short changing the potential of the whole thing--and you may find yourself playing catch-up.

I'm figuring noon EST, or 9 AM PST.

I was just in the same bind, and selected the Fuel 2720, because of the run time, the movable shoe, and the other little features, also, it doesn't vibrate as much. If the fuel is an option for you financially, I say go for it. In any reviews or comparisons, the fuel always gets sung high praises, while the 2621 is just generally seen as a step up from the 2620. I seriously considered both.

From what I understand, 16 gauge, all though called a "nail gun" because it has a larger head, is not really a "true nail" but is just an over sized brad. Compare the nails when you're at the store. The 16 ga is not round or pointed like a true nail. A 15 ga. finish nailer however shoots a true nail. [Again, this is just as I've learned it in recent days as I've begun researching.] While the 16 ga can work for larger fastening applications, no question about that, but if you just need fastening (furniture or fencing for example), and you don't plan on doing fine cabinet trim work or interior trim work, the 15 ga is the way to go. For exterior uses, the nail quality of the 15 ga stainless or galvanized is much higher because there is so much more material to withstand weathering and elements. Many guys suggest the stainless for whatever reason. I'm no expert, just an obsessive researcher, so all of the above should be taken with a grain of salt.

One interesting fact beyond the torque and bpm is the speed. Both top out at 1700 rpm. That's a pretty big deal. I'd be interested in learning the UWO of both to do a full comparison. I bet they're closer than the torque numbers suggest. Either way, that M12 Fuel is a sweet sweet phaser.

Isn't it a 5 yr from the date of purchase? What if your tool's been on the shelf for a little while? I just bought a 2797-22 Combo Kit serial dated Feb 2014. Does that mean I'm more than one year into my warranty?

Thanks, I am looking for as many opinions/options as possible. I looked at the bostitch, pretty much the same as the Porter Cable set, guns look exactly the same. My only real drawback is the manner in which one has to un-jamb them--and the reviews of the guns in the 3 gun kit are pretty mediocre. A 7 year warranty does recover that a bit though. I'll have to take another look.

Hey, that's my truck!!! No... no... just joking.

A few projects: Wife and little tyke have been out of town since Friday, so took an opportunity. Can you say new home-owner? 1) Installed ceiling in new walk-in shower (solo job), cut in for can-light and 10" rain-shower head with Milwaukee adjustable hole-cutter (better and cheaper than the klein). 2) Did final work installing two new windows only waiting for interior and exterior trim. 3) Did final drywall mudding and patch work in 1.2.3.4.5 rooms. 4) Reinstalled 3x 4X8 4" gap T1-11 panels (solo job) and trim on the exterior bathroom wall of the house around new 9.8 gal tankless H2O heater and new windows. A true stress test for the # 2 mode of the Fuel hex impact. Got a touch warm. Glad I went Fuel. 5) Broke out the brand spanking new Fuel Sawzall for the final panel-window fitting, then having it out, said screw it and popped in a pruning blade. Like butter, baby, butter... 6) Did about 20% of the pruning I need to do around the house. 7) Installed easy access power strips to each side of the bed frame beneath our bed. Used Fuel Hammer drill for holes in frame. A beautiful little beast. 8. )Went to HD and eyed a Ryobi 16 ga cordless nailer for trim work, bought a new T-bevel in prep. Thinking the nailer will be purchased Wed or Thurs!!! 9) Removed 4 lineal feet of wainscoting to shim out and level drywall for wainscoting repair. 10) Used Fastback II to clean up shitty paint edging in entry hall and dining room. 11) Took my f-ing clothes off, wiped my face drank a gallon of iced water, and laid myself out and opened to TIA!!! Thinking about packing up my tobacco pipe for a nice relaxing smoke. Sundays.

I have a pretty good excuse... I missed the deal cause I've been buying M18 Fuel Kits! 2797-22 and 2720-21. And the 2630. I'm a relatively new home owner in the throes of a good sized renovation (plus built-ins) and the wife's ok'd some purchases to make my life easier. I finally cut the cord. The poor corded tools are feeling neglected. I'm trying to see if I can neglect my hammer a little too. Ha!

Budget is ~ $250-300--with the option to grow (a little) with time. I wouldn't say I'd be using it often (like every day, or every week even) but a fair amount for a non-professional situation. I'm the friend people call to help them with their own DIYs. As well, I have a couple of cabinet building projects coming up this year. Plus the odd small job here and there. When you have the tool, options open up, so I'm certain there will be other build projects. I'd say a couple of times a month plus or minus.

Ok, bare with me. So I'm in the market for a nailer. I've read reviews extensively, and still, my decision is up in the air. My immediate use is trim work. The trim is all custom 3/4". I'm thinking (but am not married to) the 16 ga. because its the most versatile between the 15, 16, & 18 ga. And it shoots 2 1/2" nails. But all depends on whether or not I go cordless or pneumatic. I am not worried about hole size, as I will be painting. I do not own a compressor. And if I get a cordless, I will get a compressor later in the year. Currently, I am looking at 3 options: 1) The Ryobi 16 ga. cordless (which has rave reviews, but is a bit costly considering the all plastic build and having to buy into a new battery platform). 2) The Paslode 16 ga. cordless gas (which is currently on sale 50% off at $149). 3) Finally, the Porter-Cable 6 gal. 150 psi pancake (with either the included 2 gun 16/18 gauge nailer combo--which includes better model nailers than the three gun option, OR the pancake by itself and a good 15 or 16 ga. nailer of another brand). Most of what I read says the ideal is to have two guns. The 15 ga. and 18 ga. If I go cordless, I can't afford that. If I get the compressor I can live with a 15 ga for a minute until I have a few bucks to buy an 18. Thoughts, experience, and help.

Better yet, I'll surprise her with the upgraded table! "Honey, come see what I did!"

Really, I'm just waiting for the weekend to get to demo-ing for a custom closet I'm putting in for my wife. Getting rid of the old reach-ins and converting a small office into a walk-in with a dressing table and built-ins. But until then, the dogwoods and poplars out front should be quaking in their spots. Our whole front yard is forest. Looks to be a fun, if not sweat filled and humid job. Can't wait!

Anybody ever try Abita, the Louisianna brew? Stuff is nectar made into beer. Its delicious!

My Fuel Sawzall came in from HD today! I'm so excited. My wife looked at me like I was crazy! Ha! I'm about to saw something as soon as the the little tyke's in bed. Now, what to do with this packaged battery? Anybody sell them on ebay before? What should I expect from a packaged 4.0 bat? Manufacture date code shows February 2015. Pity you can't just return them for credit.

My first thought was tractor-pin or hitch-pin. Doesn't look extremely different from pins used today on tractors. looks like it locks a connection to me. So, I'd have to agree with Harold. We find things like this on our farm all the time. I am interested in seeing exactly what it is, if it isn't a hitch-pin.

Our HD is a mish-mash of stuff, no highlights or great displays, just a little of everything. It's both nice and disappointing. You can look at the basics of every brand, but doesn't go deep into any product line--except ryobi... hmm.

Good eye! You got it. 2653 & 2654. And just your luck!--there is a boot for the 2654 in the link above. So that changes my question to comparing the 2653 and 2654.

I recall seeing a post in which someone said they had used the Fuel 2754 compact impact wrench tool boot for the Fuel 2753 hex impact driver. Any thoughts or experience? Any one own a Fuel Impact Wrench AND a Fuel Hex Impact Driver to compare size? I know the vents in the boot line up. It's about time they make boots for all their fuel tools! http://www.milwaukeetool.com/accessories/miscellaneous/49-16-2754

Maybe we should flood Milwaukee with requests!!! Or, better yet, demand them!!!