rocket1420

Talk to me when you have a full line of brushless impact wrenches, copper tubing cutter, pvc cutter, polishers, more than three lights, a charger that charges more than two batteries, a full range of rotary hammers, ratchets, magnetic drill press, planer, metal shears, 7 1/4" circular saw, bandsaw, anything else I'm missing?

Perhaps I am simply in the wrong thread. I realize that the thread topic is the m12 flashlight. Obviously there's a crap ton of flashlights out there. I was more talking about the $400 for the stand light and $300 for the 360° light, or whatever it is. I'm on my phone so I'll go back and look later. There really is no cordless competition for those lights, at least in Home Depot or Lowe's. I'm sure someone can find some obscure German light that works similarly, but that's not what we're talking about here. When we're talking competition, especially for the m18 lights, we're really talking about Dewalt, Makita, Bosch, and I suppose if you want to include a couple lesser brands, you could throw in Ridgid, Ryobi, Porter-Cable, and a few other entry level brands. NONE of these companies have lights like Milwaukee does. That's a problem. No competition = high prices. They can charge whatever they can get for them because the next company isn't offering a competing product. Just look at how many people in here said "that's a f***load of money but I'll end up getting it during a promo."

Not only that, but ZERO competition doesn't help to keep the prices down either.

12 volt tools are generally smaller and lighter. The M12 line also gets you things you won't find anywhere else, like the copper tubing cutter and pvc shear.

They all look like D handles to me. http://www.homedepot.com/s/m18%20sds?NCNI-5 But the particular style in question is just longer, so you don't have to bend over as far or maybe reach up as high (although I've never drilled concrete above my head).

It's very surprising to me that Milwaukee could be that far off the mark with this one. Especially since it appears to be similar to the Senco, as mentioned above, and the 15 gauge finishing gun kit is $329. No framing gun is also a huge disappointment. I got tired of waiting on the framing gun and picked up the yellow today. Might end up going with the Senco, although I might hold off until my Milwaukee rep gets his demo display in.

I was pretty annoyed when my One-Key kit came with the old charger.

I don't think the 2897-22 kit was even out eight months ago, at least in the US. In any case, you got what everyone else got in their kits.

Milwaukee had problems with the clamps on the M18 stand light. They fixed it with a redesigned clamp fairly quickly. Hopefully they do the same with these guns. Although if you're expecting a cordless tool to be lighter than a pneumatic one, that will never happen.

I don't doubt that. They aren't impact wrenches though.

There's still too many variables. The big one I can think of is heat buildup. Torque sticks aren't that accurate. I wouldn't use them to torque my own wheels, but if you're a flat rate mechanic, a torque stick is certainly better than nothing.

I'm surprised no one else mentioned this, but you're looking for impact wrenches. Drivers are usually 1/4" and take bits instead of sockets. If you're invested in the Dewalt line, I'm sorry about that ;). Might as well stick with what you know. The 899 is supposed to be as powerful as Milwaukee's big boy 2763.

No impact wrench type tool in the world can tighten a fastener to an accurate, repeatable torque spec.

They are marked $698 here

That's pretty much what I was going to say. No way am I going to pay $329 for it. Wait until you can get it at HD with a free battery kit or something. The $150 HD promo is only seven months away!