KnarlyCarl Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 What you need to,do is get one a common size say 2 -9/16" and try it out. See if you like it then get the set. Good luck Jimbo. Good idea. I got the size you mentioned, as well as the 2-1/8" for the 2" and 1-1/2" PVC pipe I use a lot of. My boss and I were talking about this vs using super hawg and chipper/self feed bits. We came to the conclusion to not buy a super hawg because of these awesome hole saws and they require much less power to run, so I use my drill. We have a cordless hole hawg if I'm in a tighter spot than my drill can fit, and that works perfect. The self feed bits will require much more power and although the super hawg has a long body, it will still take you on a ride if you're not holding on properly. Granted, it does have anti kickback, but you still have to hold on good. It's so effortless to run the big hawg compared to self feed bits, I've come to the conclusion that is a better fit for me at the end of the day. Sure I would love to get my hands on a super hawg but I'm not buying one myself just for having one haha Plus the self feed bits make so much more mess, you can't easily drill the hole out bigger, and if I'm trying to locate a hole through the material on the other side by drilling a pilot hole to check clearance, there goes my material for which the self feed screw needs to pull itself through with. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted June 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Not only that but if your concerned about clean up, self feeds make a huge mess Jimbo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnarlyCarl Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Not only that but if your concerned about clean up, self feeds make a huge mess Jimbo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Haha yeah I just edited my post to include that Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnarlyCarl Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 I like Bosch bits and accessories but Acme was having a sale on the big hawg and they are deeper than the Bosch I believe Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky603 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Bosch sent me a couple of large 3-tooth TCT hole saws sized for recessed cans a while back, to try out. Just like the Big Hawgs, just not as deep, and with carbide teeth. I'm surprised they came out with those in the video. Obviously, a set wouldn't be $20, like those in the OP's post. The ones they sent me were awesome, but that $20 set looks like HF junk. Plus, there's no way I'm using a hole saw arbor without pins in this day and age. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky603 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 4-5/8" Big Hawg through wet 2x PT with my 2nd gen Fuel in low, no problem. That was a 10-sec hole. A 2-3/4" through regular framing with my M18 Hole Hawg is literally a 3-sec hole. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordraw Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 You should bring them back to the store with the piece of wood it's stuck in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted June 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 You should bring them back to the store with the piece of wood it's stuck in. Thought about it but I dug it out and returned them. Jimbo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnarlyCarl Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 .........Plus, there's no way I'm using a hole saw arbor without pins in this day and age. Yup, this big time Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Glassey Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 I just got a 10 pcs set of the big hawg hole saws. And just the fact that they can last 10x longer and come with a diamond sharpening stone sold me on them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnarlyCarl Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 I just got a 10 pcs set of the big hawg hole saws. And just the fact that they can last 10x longer and come with a diamond sharpening stone sold me on them. Well I wish I would have seen that before, what sort of sharpening stone are we talking? Something I can get off the shelf you think? Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Glassey Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Yes it's kinda cheesy just a little thing. John, Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk[emoji848] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnarlyCarl Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Ok I can find something like that easily enough, thanks Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmcmillan Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 4 hours ago, Glasseyi said: Yes it's kinda cheesy just a little thing. John, Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk You really want a plate without speed holes for sharpening something that small. https://www.amazon.com/DMT-D3F-3-Inch-Dia-Sharp-Sharpener/dp/B0001WP1J2/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Glassey Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Yeah I wouldn't attempt to sharpen the hole hawg saw bit with the included diamond sharpener. I was being sarcastic when I said it swayed my decision lol. And then Knarlycarl wanted to,see it. Your right the one you highlighted is better but I feel skeptical of that as well. I would leave it up to a pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmcmillan Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 6 hours ago, Glasseyi said: Yeah I wouldn't attempt to sharpen the hole hawg saw bit with the included diamond sharpener. I was being sarcastic when I said it swayed my decision lol. And then Knarlycarl wanted to,see it. Your right the one you highlighted is better but I feel skeptical of that as well. I would leave it up to a pro. It's a lot easier than most people think, but yeah you can do a lot of damage too. Start on something you were going to throw away and if you can bring that back from the dead, touching up something else won't be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 Great topic. I'm looking into getting a set of nice carbide hole saws, and I was almost sold on Bosch carbide. However, like most types of tools, the original innovator can be hard to top and with carbide hole saws like these that seems to be the Big Hawgs. Fairly pricy for a kit but the cost per hole and quality seem to be great in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnarlyCarl Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 On 8/28/2016 at 6:39 PM, Bremon said: Great topic. I'm looking into getting a set of nice carbide hole saws, and I was almost sold on Bosch carbide. However, like most types of tools, the original innovator can be hard to top and with carbide hole saws like these that seems to be the Big Hawgs. Fairly pricy for a kit but the cost per hole and quality seem to be great in the end. I love using the hole saws such as the big hawgs, but just so you know, they aren't actually carbide. They are hardened steel of sorts....?? That may be a good thing perhaps, as they might be less likely to chip off if running into a screw or nail. Lenox has ones with a single carbide tooth. Bosch has their own similar to the Big Hawgs, but with carbide, haven't tried them. Dewalt has their new hole saw meant for using with their new flexvolt stud drill, it has a self feed bit that pulls the carbide hole saw into the work. HOWEVER, toolaholic and I were having a lengthy discussion and he mentioned about how a pain it was to then pull the plug back out the dewalt holesaw because of something with how the centering spade bit "jams" the slug. "The tip punctures through, it grabs the slug because it self feeds until the holesaw makes it through" "so what I was doing is i let the self feeding tip puncture through, then i speed the drill up, and push through the hole saw at the end, so the slug is loose" also "the kerf on the flexvolt holesaw is about half [the width] of the milwaukee big hawg, so that's how it's getting more holes per charge" I mentioned how I was using a diamond sharpener and put the edge back on after hitting a nail, didn't really inflict much damage on the teeth. So there's that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 Thanks Knarly! My mistake on the Big Hawgs. Still likely to go with them unless I find a killer deal on Bosch. Best prices seem to be on Big Hawgs. I understand the thin kerf/more holes strategy Dewalt is running with but I feel the thicker kerf might be an advantage for durability, and possibly popping plugs as mentioned. Might end up buying more batteries in the long run compared to FlexVolt accessories but it's not like we are talking driver bits here; this stuff isn't cheap either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmcmillan Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 The dewalt probably gets the plug stuck just because self feed doesn't give time for the chips to clear. You get the same problem with some augers that take longer to pull out of a log than they take to go through it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas2000 Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 Thanks for the video. Good to know what is good to buy, even better to know what NOT to buy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted August 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 Thanks for the video. Good to know what is good to buy, even better to know what NOT to buy!You gotta share what doesn't work out as much as what doesJimboSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnarlyCarl Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 The dewalt probably gets the plug stuck just because self feed doesn't give time for the chips to clear. You get the same problem with some augers that take longer to pull out of a log than they take to go through it.Absolutely, excellent point. I bet a regular spade bit would work just as good drilling, but so much better at allowing the slug to pop outSent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlingShotTools Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 Thanks Jimbo! Great Video. I agree with the others, try using either Lenox or MK Morse hole saws. You can't go wrong with a professional tool. But your video is perfect for depicting the cheaper brands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted October 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 Thanks Jimbo! Great Video. I agree with the others, try using either Lenox or MK Morse hole saws. You can't go wrong with a professional tool. But your video is perfect for depicting the cheaper brands.Thanks dude, I should have picked up Morse cobalt saws at menards on clearence, Milwaukee aren't bad the hole dozers I get by with those Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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