Bremon Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 More like so gas doesn't leak out. The heat comes from the miniature internal combustion engine in these beasts. You guys didn't think "Fuel" was some dumb marketing buzzword did you? It has enough gas for 61 months use; gets you a month over the warranty ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee_man_stan Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Ok First off EVERY tool brand has some kinks in their tool line DeWalt has em Makita has em Hilti has em and metabo has em It's just what happens nobody Is perfect! The reason why I'm staying loyal and true to milwaukee is because I've never had such a dependable tool, Ive Never had a Milwaukee tool completely fail me and never will hopefully... If so I have a 5 Year tool warranty to back me up and If my tool does get messed up then I'm happy to take it to the milwaukee service center, were service is very helpful. Ok second off Stop Looking At Them so Negatively, us being humans Want More so were always going to be complaining to our source of interest either if it's making more money, Jobs, and having tool industries make more or better tools, are attitudes are I WANT MORE were never thankful for the little things we get in life... Anyways looking at the positive for milwaukee would be... Their very innovative, Even though they give me that tool I didn't want they still throw some innovations that give me a smile, They have some awesome giveaways, and they have user innovation meaning those complaints your handing down to them is getting attention from them... so it can be good to say "yeah your fuel drill overheats" But once they've heard you you don't need to constantly nag about it Now I might of been to kind to milwaukee, but I'm tired of people constantly repeating problems, all we need is just one quick complaint and "boom" done no need to write paragraphs of how we hate one single deffect some engineer put on a tool it just takes that one kind complaint and your done.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiltiWpg Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Brand loyalty extends to everything. You try to convince a Chevy guy to buy a Ford, I dare you. Same goes for tools. No one likes to hear the negative stories about their favourite brand XXXX, but that doesn't mean it isn't true. While you may have had 100% success, not every one else has. We all vent our frustrations and these forums are a great place to do it.If I have an issue, I like that I can check to see if anyone else has them too. You didn't make the tool, don take it personally if other people don't share your opinion.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Why? Do people who browse here for info read topics from 3 years ago? September 2015 when I got my Gen2 Fuel drill, was that my grace period for posting one post about its' issues then forever holding my peace because I'm married to the M12 and M18 systems? One complaint is easy to dismiss. A consensus of complaints is easier to trust and believe. We point out flaws and features in all the tools we have to share experiences and help each other save money and make informed decisions. These tools are expensive top-of-the-line items. Plus, we can get some humour out of it too, which is never a bad thing. If you want to feel good about Big Red I'll throw you a bone though: 2704: crazy lightweight for the power it packs 2753: self tap mode works well 2720: adjustable shoe, rafter hook 2731: had a rafter hook and onboard blade wrench 2755B: very light and portable, very few competitors 2763: ridiculous power 2866: awesome auto start mode 2627: belt hook 2361, 2394: who can compete with M18 lighting? 0880: great CFM 2783: tool free disc change is great. see? I actually like this stuff. ?☀️?☀️ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jronman Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 can everybody at tia get together and create the ultimate line of tools? "TIA Ultimate, flawless tools for the pro in mind" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee_man_stan Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 I know guys I might of been going to far but at least it changed the mood of the thread.., lol that was my main attention... As I was reading I was disappointed finding that my favorite Most trustworthy brand was failing to fight back lol... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 All good. Do I think they are junk tools? Not a chance. Do I mind comparing them to other tools? No. My 2704 has some distinct advantages over my 996. It is smaller and lighter, has a separate selector collar for hammer, drill, and drive. It has a side handle that's worth a damn. It has a gear selector that works consistently. The 996 however has a superior chuck, runs cooler, to my mind, a much better light, and 3 speeds. I suppose that's the nice way of reviewing something quickly without seeming like I'm hating on it. The other way to read that is my M18 Fuel chuck is a jacobs that isn't so great, it runs hot enough to fry an egg and the light is worthless. The 996 gearbox is finnicky and people hate it, its side handle is a plastic piece of trash, switching from drill to a low clutch setting is inconvenient and the thing weighs as much as a cinder block ?. Still love both drills but I'd rather guys don't have to read between the lines so they can feel rosy about their favourites ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiltiWpg Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 can everybody at tia get together and create the ultimate line of tools? "TIA Ultimate, flawless tools for the pro in mind" Good luck with that.These guys will NEVER agree on the colour!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Pink! No. Grey! Wait no, grey isn't good enough, the tools that get thoroughly outperformed at NPS by red tools are always grey...umm... royal purple, so you know they rule all the other tools. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BababooeyHTJ Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 My m18 fuel started smoking this weekend... yeah it runs hot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BababooeyHTJ Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 All good. Do I think they are junk tools? Not a chance. Do I mind comparing them to other tools? No. My 2704 has some distinct advantages over my 996. It is smaller and lighter, has a separate selector collar for hammer, drill, and drive. It has a side handle that's worth a damn. It has a gear selector that works consistently. The 996 however has a superior chuck, runs cooler, to my mind, a much better light, and 3 speeds. I suppose that's the nice way of reviewing something quickly without seeming like I'm hating on it. The other way to read that is my M18 Fuel chuck is a jacobs that isn't so great, it runs hot enough to fry an egg and the light is worthless. The 996 gearbox is finnicky and people hate it, its side handle is a plastic piece of trash, switching from drill to a low clutch setting is inconvenient and the thing weighs as much as a cinder block [emoji23]. Still love both drills but I'd rather guys don't have to read between the lines so they can feel rosy about their favourites [emoji38]What do people dislike about the 996 gearbox? I loved the gearbox on the 995. 1250rpm was the perfect ratio of speed and torque for most of my needs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 I love having 3 speeds @BababooeyHTJ, it's a bit of a pain in the backside switching gears from 2 to 3 sometimes, you either have to switch from 2 to 1 to 3 or feather the trigger a tiny bit until it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AnonymousJoe Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 hour ago, BababooeyHTJ said: My m18 fuel started smoking this weekend... yeah it runs hot Based on my recent experiences Id recommend u buy 3 new ones, keep the one that works and return the other two ? U will then have a fantastic drill ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jronman Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 21 hours ago, HiltiWpg said: Good luck with that. These guys will NEVER agree on the colour! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The color will be available in glow in the dark white, high vis yellow, and/or high vis orange. because functional colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 All good. Do I think they are junk tools? Not a chance. Do I mind comparing them to other tools? No. My 2704 has some distinct advantages over my 996. It is smaller and lighter, has a separate selector collar for hammer, drill, and drive. It has a side handle that's worth a damn. It has a gear selector that works consistently. The 996 however has a superior chuck, runs cooler, to my mind, a much better light, and 3 speeds. I suppose that's the nice way of reviewing something quickly without seeming like I'm hating on it. The other way to read that is my M18 Fuel chuck is a jacobs that isn't so great, it runs hot enough to fry an egg and the light is worthless. The 996 gearbox is finnicky and people hate it, its side handle is a plastic piece of trash, switching from drill to a low clutch setting is inconvenient and the thing weighs as much as a cinder block [emoji23]. Still love both drills but I'd rather guys don't have to read between the lines so they can feel rosy about their favourites [emoji38]Love the chuck on the 996, rohms kick someMajor arse, they improved the gear selector but it's still a shit box IMOSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdst_1 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 I love having 3 speeds [mention=10880]BababooeyHTJ[/mention], it's a bit of a pain in the backside switching gears from 2 to 3 sometimes, you either have to switch from 2 to 1 to 3 or feather the trigger a tiny bit until it goes. It is doing the same on my brand new 996. Seems like I will end up using only speeds 1 and 3. It just doesn't want to go to 1 from 2. Also the battery fits a bit loosely at the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Gets easier as you use it more but still has the occasional hiccup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdst_1 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Gets easier as you use it more but still has the occasional hiccup. I'll also have to put a strong rubberband on the battery. Although the wobble due to the battery fitment issue isn't a lot, but it does wreak havoc on my OCD mind now that I know it's there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rought Posted February 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 On 2/22/2017 at 9:20 AM, Bremon said: Why? Do people who browse here for info read topics from 3 years ago? September 2015 when I got my Gen2 Fuel drill, was that my grace period for posting one post about its' issues then forever holding my peace because I'm married to the M12 and M18 systems? One complaint is easy to dismiss. A consensus of complaints is easier to trust and believe. We point out flaws and features in all the tools we have to share experiences and help each other save money and make informed decisions. These tools are expensive top-of-the-line items. Plus, we can get some humour out of it too, which is never a bad thing. If you want to feel good about Big Red I'll throw you a bone though: 2704: crazy lightweight for the power it packs 2753: self tap mode works well 2720: adjustable shoe, rafter hook 2731: had a rafter hook and onboard blade wrench 2755B: very light and portable, very few competitors 2763: ridiculous power 2866: awesome auto start mode 2627: belt hook 2361, 2394: who can compete with M18 lighting? 0880: great CFM 2783: tool free disc change is great. see? I actually like this stuff. ?☀️?☀️ I think until Milwaukee fixes the problem it will be an important subject... the only reason I posted this thread was to warn people that these drills/motors have a problem. Lot of people depend on these tools to make a living. they have left me stuck on jobs several times. we must complain about problems or they will never get fixed too.. I just wish i came across this thread a couple of years ago. it would have saved me lots of money and headaches. Milwaukee put on such a great show at the store.. the marketing is top notch..but the overheating is a real buzz kill.. and nothing has changed yet.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnarlyCarl Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 On 2/23/2017 at 11:00 AM, Jronman said: The color will be available in glow in the dark white, high vis yellow, and/or high vis orange. because functional colors. Why only one color, Makita has a rainbow of colors, nothing today's machines can't accomplish! 1 minute ago, rought said: I think until Milwaukee fixes the problem it will be an important subject... the only reason I posted this thread was to warn people that these drills/motors have a problem. Lot of people depend on these tools to make a living. they have left me stuck on jobs several times. we must complain about problems or they will never get fixed too.. I just wish i came across this thread a couple of years ago. it would have saved me lots of money and headaches. Milwaukee put on such a great show at the store.. the marketing is top notch..but the overheating is a real buzz kill.. and nothing has changed yet.. They are indeed a marketing machine first, tool company second, unfortunately 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jronman Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 6 hours ago, KnarlyCarl said: Why only one color, Makita has a rainbow of colors, nothing today's machines can't accomplish! They are indeed a marketing machine first, tool company second, unfortunately It would come in of 3 color options. high vis white, yellow, and orange. Each will have glow in the dark properties to add extra function to the tool. Thing is with Milwaukee red, DeWALT yellow, Makita teal, and Bosch blue is they don't add any function. Only thing they have going for them is coolness factor and looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancing Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 On 2/22/2017 at 4:30 PM, AnonymousJoe said: Based on my recent experiences Id recommend u buy 3 new ones, keep the one that works and return the other two ? U will then have a fantastic drill ? heh, thats exactly what I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancing Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 On 2/24/2017 at 6:27 PM, Jronman said: It would come in of 3 color options. high vis white, yellow, and orange. Each will have glow in the dark properties to add extra function to the tool. Thing is with Milwaukee red, DeWALT yellow, Makita teal, and Bosch blue is they don't add any function. Only thing they have going for them is coolness factor and looks. I'm surprised a company hasn't made a transparent tool yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancing Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 On 2/22/2017 at 1:20 PM, Bremon said: All good. Do I think they are junk tools? Not a chance. Do I mind comparing them to other tools? No. My 2704 has some distinct advantages over my 996. It is smaller and lighter, has a separate selector collar for hammer, drill, and drive. It has a side handle that's worth a damn. It has a gear selector that works consistently. The 996 however has a superior chuck, runs cooler, to my mind, a much better light, and 3 speeds. I suppose that's the nice way of reviewing something quickly without seeming like I'm hating on it. The other way to read that is my M18 Fuel chuck is a jacobs that isn't so great, it runs hot enough to fry an egg and the light is worthless. The 996 gearbox is finnicky and people hate it, its side handle is a plastic piece of trash, switching from drill to a low clutch setting is inconvenient and the thing weighs as much as a cinder block ?. Still love both drills but I'd rather guys don't have to read between the lines so they can feel rosy about their favourites ? The new metabo Bs18LTX BL I has pretty much the best of makita/dewalt/hilti/milwaukee its got enough power to do everything you need, runs cool and has fine tune settings without BT. Only thing bad about it is its eye catching and people I work with have sticky fingers so I stopped using it on jobs, which pretty much makes it worthless now as It sits in my garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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