Stercorarius Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 12 minutes ago, framer said: how cold are we talking? if its below freezing, you shouldnt be framing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigskyframer Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 8 hours ago, framer said: how cold are we talking? if its below freezing, you shouldnt be framing your kidding right? so I should just take all winter off? if it gets to about -10 then we may take the morning off till it warms up a bit lol. this is right now and we have just began the fun that is winter one week into a 3200 ft house 2 guys and 3 weeks left to finish no time for cold days good thing I still have all my cords ugh..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 8 hours ago, bigskyframer said: ya I love rafter hooks every gun I have has one every saw needs one! my biggest complaint with the Milwaukee line is the rafter hooks are cheap plastic this one is all metal and works very well. however coming into winter I have major concerns for the batteries I can already tell you Milwaukee is winning that battle. ...what makes you say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigskyframer Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Hugh Jass said: ...what makes you say that? the other day I didnt have my heater in my trailer yet the Milwaukee batters charged no problem the dewalt was pissed and didn't charge untill it sat in front of the heater for hrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framer Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 I frame all cordless. And the paslode nailers have a hard time when they get to about 10 to 15 degrees. Used to build a heated box to keep nailers and batteries in. But lately we just plan to not frame in the winter. Either find inside work. Or just take a long vacation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kornomaniac Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 2 hours ago, bigskyframer said: the other day I didnt have my heater in my trailer yet the Milwaukee batters charged no problem the dewalt was pissed and didn't charge untill it sat in front of the heater for hrs Well as far as I know charging lithium batteries below freezing temperatures kills the cells. That's something you'd actually want to avoid. Perhaps the DeWalt batteries/chargers were protecting themselves and your milaukee batteries are possible dieing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouet Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 12 minutes ago, kornomaniac said: Well as far as I know charging lithium batteries below freezing temperatures kills the cells. That's something you'd actually want to avoid. Perhaps the DeWalt batteries/chargers were protecting themselves and your milaukee batteries are possible dieing ? I think a frozen lithium battery that is cold charged is a potential hazard (it can fail later on and explodes). Dewalt has probably some built-in protection to protect you from doing it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Framer joe Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Don’t all lith ion batteries have a hot/cold delay ? Wow all winter off ? We maybe missed 10 days in 30 years ,,....no such thing as too cold or too hott in Framing. (Contracts)..... .......we use Dewalt batteries and cordless tools all winter.,we do run a very small portable heater in our job box where everything is stored.... cordless .paslode is great except in very cold weather...gotta keep the all season fuel cells warm... .....been using the new dcs577 ripping lvl timbers ,,,friggn beast, no problem no stall...wish it was blade right but we will get used to it...it’s worth it !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigskyframer Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 9 hours ago, kornomaniac said: Well as far as I know charging lithium batteries below freezing temperatures kills the cells. That's something you'd actually want to avoid. Perhaps the DeWalt batteries/chargers were protecting themselves and your milaukee batteries are possible dieing ? nothing was even close to frezzing. and yes thnx for the explanation. I did already know about the batterys but it is something to be aware of for sure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy MSG Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Framer joe said: Don’t all lith ion batteries have a hot/cold delay ? Wow all winter off ? We maybe missed 10 days in 30 years ,,....no such thing as too cold or too hott in Framing. (Contracts)..... .......we use Dewalt batteries and cordless tools all winter.,we do run a very small portable heater in our job box where everything is stored.... cordless .paslode is great except in very cold weather...gotta keep the all season fuel cells warm... .....been using the new dcs577 ripping lvl timbers ,,,friggn beast, no problem no stall...wish it was blade right but we will get used to it...it’s worth it !!!!! How does it's power compare to the blade right FlexVolt sidewinder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jronman Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 11 minutes ago, Grumpy MSG said: How does it's power compare to the blade right FlexVolt sidewinder? 2400 watts out for the worm drive style saw. 1600 wats out for the blade right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy MSG Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 9 minutes ago, Jronman said: 2400 watts out for the worm drive style saw. 1600 wats out for the blade right. I was actually asking for the opinion from the guy with the saw in his hand versus what the sales literature says.Sometimes those numbers aren't necessarily a reflection of reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framer Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Jronman said: 2400 watts out for the worm drive style saw. 1600 wats out for the blade right. does that mean shorter battery life with the worm drive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Framer joe Posted November 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 So truth is ...if you need a Saw for ripping lumber , pt ,lvl(structural lumber), anything more difficult then plywood ...this is THE saw...I haven’t used blade left saws for framing in 30 yrs ...I wasn’t sure I’d like it and I’m still getting used to the new blade left dcs577... ..(.really most homeowners probably only need the 20v XR 7 1/4” circ...).... ...the 575 is awesome and I thought that’s all I could want..........also the other crew uses the new rear handle Makita which is as powerful as the 575...it’s a nice saw.ill admit.. ...I love the 575....it’s all I’ve used till now,and love it.....BUT....The 577 is unfreaking believable. I thought yah yah more power,.no...it’s true....it’s on a another level all alone....no joke...I wish Dewalt paid me to say this stuff but,,,they don’t......the 577 can do anything faster and easier, then any other saw corded or cordless..period............runtime....on 1/ 9ah-3ah it will ..rip..triple stacks of 3;4 “ advantec ply,,rip engineered lumber, cut pressured treated stock, post beams ..for 4-5 hrs straight...go to lunch and it’s charged for the rest of the day or use 2/ 9ah-3ah.....it is made damn durable, In my hand it just feels like your holding a monster on a leash ready to just shred anything in its way...... .....silly I quess but everything about it screams quality...heavy duty...hope this helps..:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framer Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, Framer joe said: So truth is ...if you need a Saw for ripping lumber , pt ,lvl(structural lumber), anything more difficult then plywood ...this is THE saw...I haven’t used blade left saws for framing in 30 yrs ...I wasn’t sure I’d like it and I’m still getting used to the new blade left dcs577... ..(.really most homeowners probably only need the 20v XR 7 1/4” circ...).... ...the 575 is awesome and I thought that’s all I could want..........also the other crew uses the new rear handle Makita which is as powerful as the 575...it’s a nice saw.ill admit.. ...I love the 575....it’s all I’ve used till now,and love it.....BUT....The 577 is unfreaking believable. I thought yah yah more power,.no...it’s true....it’s on a another level all alone....no joke...I wish Dewalt paid me to say this stuff but,,,they don’t......the 577 can do anything faster and easier, then any other saw corded or cordless..period............runtime....on 1/ 9ah-3ah it will ..rip..triple stacks of 3;4 “ advantec ply,,rip engineered lumber, cut pressured treated stock, post beams ..for 4-5 hrs straight...go to lunch and it’s charged for the rest of the day or use 2/ 9ah-3ah.....it is made damn durable, In my hand it just feels like your holding a monster on a leash ready to just shred anything in its way...... .....silly I quess but everything about it screams quality...heavy duty...hope this helps..:) wow! tomorrow i'm finally getting one delivered. can't wait. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glass Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Some say the makita is better in the hand, easier to cut straight. What say you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 2 hours ago, glass said: Some say the makita is better in the hand, easier to cut straight. What say you? ...that they're makita fans? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Framer joe Posted November 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Makita. ..May have the biggest fan base...seems any negative comment will cause a firestorm,so I’ll only say I’ve used both for the same task and ..I stand by my comment above........there is No saw even close to the 577 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 I just placed my order in, can't wait! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framer Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 got my saw today. havent cut anything yet. sure is a beast. my only complaint is that it is a bit heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 19 hours ago, framer said: got my saw today. havent cut anything yet. sure is a beast. my only complaint is that it is a bit heavy. It weighs less than my older wormdrive. There's benefits to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercorarius Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 I'd like to see a weight and performance comparison between the mag 77 if there isn't already one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glass Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 That depth guide sure likes under built on the dewalt monster. The makita looks beefier. An6 thoughts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glass Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Any.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Framer joe Posted November 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 No @glass...under built ? It’s like 4” thick. Kidding but there is no weak point on the 577....the depth gauge is thick and the markings are super easy to read, the bevel has pos stops at 22.5 and 45........the base plate is “honey combed “ ...the entire saw is a beast. Made specifically for contractors abuse.....put a diablo framing tracking point blade on and H o L d o n ...for the thrill and pleasure of ripping into piles of lumber .............NoOne has an answer for Any Flexvolt Tool (ok except the recip ) ....Dewalt Domination!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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