firefighter4187 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Well The fuel Hammer Drill driver came in this Morning!! I had just enough time to open it up charge the battery and take it to work, ITS GREAT! Tomorrow I will do a video review and also I am going to do a runtime test with my premium 20v Drill Driver with a 1 1/4 in spade in 3X. I dont know if this is how Milwaukee tools sound or I have a defect, when I release the trigger and the chuck comes to a stop and I hear a very high-pitched scratching noise...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Brushless tools are notoriously whiny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter4187 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Brushless tools are notoriously whinyOk Im glad its not just mine, Now it seems like my DeWalt may be a bit faster......do brushless motors no have as much torque... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 From my experience Dewalt typically has more RPM's while Milwaukee typically puts out more power (torque). I'll take the extra power every time. A drill only needs to be so fast. Extra torque will benefit you in every situation (especially metal and concrete), those extra RPM's are really only useable in wood. Advantage: Milwaukee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter4187 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Yeah I see what you mean now, It blew through Brick Mortar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 I love how the side handle works on the Milwaukee. I also like that it doesn't double as a Battleship anchor like the DCD985 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter4187 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Yeah I really like the handle also, is is so much shorter than the dewalt also, Do you think this will be Milwaukee's top of the line drill for a while? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 I think it will Chase. I can't see any significant changes anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR99 Posted June 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 I don't see them changing too soon they have ton more tools too update too brushless I would say your safe for a good 2-3 years excluding battery updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR99 Posted June 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Plus some tools It might be along time before they get a brushless update where the bl tech isn't worth the extra cost, or is appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter4187 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Do you think they will release a brushless hackzall soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Do you think they will release a brushless hackzall soon? I'd say it will be in the next batch of brushless releases. I'd like to see an M18 Jig Saw in a design similar to the M12. That M12 Jig Saw is awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter4187 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Yeah, Do you have the Hackzall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Yeah, Do you have the Hackzall?I do not. It's one of those things I've always meant to get but never went through. If I were to get one, I'd want the M12 version for the compact size. I really want the M12 caulking gun. I like the grease gun, but I wouldn't use it enough to justify the price. I'm thinking about the sub scanner, but the Milwaukee came out pretty early and I understand that's on time that the Dewalt version is superior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR99 Posted June 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 I have the M12 Hackzall I never used the 18v version I dunno if I would like it any bigger. I will admit Dewalt has the superior 12v reciprocating saw right now the ability to change handle position is pretty sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR99 Posted June 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 I do not. It's one of those things I've always meant to get but never went through. If I were to get one, I'd want the M12 version for the compact size. I really want the M12 caulking gun. I like the grease gun, but I wouldn't use it enough to justify the price. I'm thinking about the sub scanner, but the Milwaukee came out pretty early and I understand that's on time that the Dewalt version is superior.I have the M12 sub scanner I like it It's way better than any stud finder I ever used they are such a pain to use the cheap ones. I think the Milwaukee scans deeper but the Dewalt identifies different materials better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayneburgess Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Be under no illusion folks don't get carried away I tested side by side today the Milwaukee fuel v the older 4 pole motor model and the older model will drill bigger holes for longer.The fuel will drill smaller holes longer than the older model.This is an inescapable fact with all brushless versus 4 pole brushed drills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Wray Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 I had no idea about how brushless motors being notorious whiney and small enough for rc's. That m12 jigsaw is sweeeeet. My ($.02) is Milwaukee is not going to have any other brushless tools this year (besides the ones we just saw). Some of those say released in Oct. I'm guessing they showed these before release to deflate the hype of DeWalts new brushless line. Just my guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 I had no idea about how brushless motors being notorious whiney and small enough for rc's. That m12 jigsaw is sweeeeet. My ($.02) is Milwaukee is not going to have any other brushless tools this year (besides the ones we just saw). Some of those say released in Oct. I'm guessing they showed these before release to deflate the hype of DeWalts new brushless line. Just my guess. Very well said Harold. I agree 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyandy Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 I am curious to see what new technology after brushless there with be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 I have heard that the next battery technology is "Lithium Air" but I don't know the first damn thing about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Wray Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Interesting technology. Here's what Wikipedia says: lithium-air battery, Li-air for short, is a metal-air battery chemistry that uses the oxidation of lithium at the anode and reduction of oxygen at the cathode to induce a current flow.The major appeal of the Li-air battery is the extremely high energy density, a measure of the amount of energy a battery can store for a given volume, which comes far closer than the energy density of most other types of batteries to that of traditional gasoline powered engines. Li-air batteries gain this advantage in energy density since they use oxygen from the air instead of storing an oxidizer internally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyandy Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 INTERESTING! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeth Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 I would like to see it aganst the new Milwaukee fuel grinder , metabo makes great tools i would like to try there cordless barrel grip jig saw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter4187 Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 I wish Milwaukee would make a barrel grip M18.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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