DR99 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Makita is promoting 4.0 ah batterieshttp://www.toolstop.co.uk/makita-dhp480-ddf480-drills-a-toolstop-report-a1318 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter4187 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Lol while everyone else is getting to 5.0....... Talk about taking forever for releases! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR99 Posted September 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Metabo is the only one with the 5.2 ah batteries so far. I think major brands will settle on 4.0 for a year or so but who knows it only takes one company to start the war of the 5.0 ah batteries. It's getting to the point where you really don't need corded tools for most jobsite tasks. it's mostly the bigger saws like table saws,tile saws, and miter saws where you still need the cord. You really could build a decent sized house with cordless tools now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter4187 Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Metabo is the only one with the 5.2 ah batteries so far. I think major brands will settle on 4.0 for a year or so but who knows it only takes one company to start the war of the 5.0 ah batteries. It's getting to the point where you really don't need corded tools for most jobsite tasks. it's mostly the bigger saws like table saws,tile saws, and miter saws where you still need the cord. You really could build a decent sized house with cordless tools now.Yeah I agree, I think we will definitely see that with the new fuel saws....I sure OSHA would prodly support it, take cords out of job sites... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 No fuel gauge? Makita applied for a patent on one like 2 years ago. Can't believe they wouldn't include that. Makes me wonder if Makita is really even trying anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe M Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Ridgid rolled out their new batteries as well. We've got the 4.0 hours and the 2.0 are supposed to be here monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR99 Posted September 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 From that sales guide it looks like they are going with a fuel gauge on the tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter4187 Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 No fuel gauge? Makita applied for a patent on one like 2 years ago. Can't believe they wouldn't include that. Makes me wonder if Makita is really even trying anymore.Lol they dont like to try for the people here in the USA.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 From that sales guide it looks like they are going with a fuel gauge on the tool. Must've just overlooked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 No fuel gauge? Makita applied for a patent on one like 2 years ago. Can't believe they wouldn't include that. Makes me wonder if Makita is really even trying anymore.I considered makita a while back but the fuel gauge or lack of put me off. But now that I think of it, with the ridiculously low charge times it might not matter as much for many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR99 Posted September 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 If you look around there are lots of people having problems with Makita's battery packs dying after a short time of use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 DR beat me to it. Makita's LXT line has been plagued with battery problems. Lithium pack just aren't meant for rapid charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeth Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Bosch have rapid charge and they dont have the same problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Bosch have rapid charge and they dont have the same problemHmmmm..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeth Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Sorry my bad ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 I wonder if Some of those battery problems could be due to user negligence. I've learned the hard way that if batteries are left discharged for too long they die. I've used all sorts of batteries like nicad and nimh rechargeable AA batteries, mp3 player batteries, a rechargeable gps, all that worked fine for many years but as soon as I let them sit for a long period of time, the batteries died. Even my parents ryobi nicad batteries worked fine until they collected dust in the garage and died. I've never had my power tool batteries die on me but I do make sure to cycle then often and top them off if they will sit unused for some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeth Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 It looks like its more of a electronic problem amd nicad and li-ion are tow world apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Memory effect was a big issue with NiCad and Nmhd packs and charging habits ruined a lot of packs. The lithium packs have no memory and can hold a charge on the shelf for a year or better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR99 Posted September 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 The only problem is Lithium batteries can still self discharge though, so it is possible for a person that ran the battery down using the tool till it cut off and then never charged the pack right away you could run into the problem of it not charging because its below voltage on the battery circuitry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter4187 Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 I wonder if Some of those battery problems could be due to user negligence. I've learned the hard way that if batteries are left discharged for too long they die. I've used all sorts of batteries like nicad and nimh rechargeable AA batteries, mp3 player batteries, a rechargeable gps, all that worked fine for many years but as soon as I let them sit for a long period of time, the batteries died. Even my parents ryobi nicad batteries worked fine until they collected dust in the garage and died. I've never had my power tool batteries die on me but I do make sure to cycle then often and top them off if they will sit unused for some Had this happen with some old crapsman and dewalt xrp stuff at my clients house, but the battery actually caused the tool to start smoking..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 The mp3 player and GPS were lithium ion powered, I should have worded that in there. They suffered the same fate as my nicad and nimh batteries when I let them sit drained for a long period of time. Well some of us learned the hard way about rechargeable batteries. Even lithium ion self discharges, just at a much slower rate. My problem with the electronics that were powered by lithium was that I ran them down and let them sit for a long while drained. I make sure not to make the same mistake with my power tool batteries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keslogan Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 I've been waiting for 4.0ah batteries from Makita for awhile. I will buy some once they come out by themselves. The brushless makes the batteries last really long compared to brushed tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Now, if only they include a fuel gauge.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter4187 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Now, if only they include a fuel gauge....Give them a couple more years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 They applied for a patent on one like 2 years ago, just hasn't made it to market.....yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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