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DEWALT DCD710 12v Drill/Driver VS RYOBI HJP002 12v Drill/Driver


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Click here if you missed the Hitachi review.

Click here if you missed the Milwaukee review.

This review is the third of many upcoming reviews of different drivers in the 12v sub-compact line. In these reviews, I will be testing;

* Ergonomics

* Features

* Run-Time

* Torque

* Charge Time

* A look inside: HJP002, CB120L, DCD710, DCB210.

I will also list each tool's specs, as well as a subjective/objective overall grade for each category listed above after I have tested all models. Grade scale 1-5, 1 being the highest score, 5 being the lowest score.

My first series of review/test's will be between 12v lithium ion drill/drivers.

Third up, Dewalt DCD710 vs Ryobi HJP002

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Dewalt has scrapped it's 12v NiCd battery stem style battery pack, and completely revamped the new 12v Max line with a new slide pack battery. Downside, your old 12v NiCd tools are NOT compatible with Dewalt's new 12v max line. The new 12v max line also has a dedicated charger. The charger will operate with the same flashing red light like Dewalt's standard chargers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ukyemM45Co

The new slide pack has allowed Dewalt to create a better ergonomic grip, as well as the ability to stand the tool up-right. A feature most of us are accustomed to on our larger voltage drivers. The Ryobi also has the ability to stand upright.  Dewalt feature a 2 speed transmission and variable speed transmission. Ryobi features a single speed only transmission, with a variable speed trigger.

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Ergonomics;

I  never really had a complaint about the ergonomics on 12v tubular handle batteries (Makita, Bosch, Milwaukee, Ridgid, ect..) until I put the new Dewalt 12v Max in my hand. It truly is an amazing grip. I have owned the Bosch 10.8v screwdriver since 2006 and I've really enjoyed the weight/power/balance. Now my wife no longer want's her Bosch driver.... Dewalt, can she get one in pink?

The Dewalt DCD710 is slightly longer at 7 9/16" vs the Ryobi HJP002 at 7 5/16" (not including chuck teeth.) Both Dewalt and Ryobi were just shy of 8" tall at there highest point (with battery).

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The Ryobi HJP002 weighs in just under 2lbs (2 lbs 8 oz with battery). Almost the same as the Dewalt DCD710 at 2 lbs,( 2lbs 8oz with battery and belt clip.)

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FEATURES;

Both Drill/Drivers feature a 3/8" chuck. The Dewalt uses a Jacob's 4000 series ratcheting chuck 1/16"-3/8". The Ryobi uses a unknown brand 1/16"- 3/8". Not sure who makes it? The Dewalt Drill features a LED light, the Ryobi does not.

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The Dewalt DCD710 features a belt clip that can be mounted on either side, with a V notch cut out of the center of the clip allowing you to hang the tool on a screw or nail. The Ryobi HJP002 does not feature a belt clip, nor the option to attach/purchase one later. If your a lanyard kinda guy/gal, the Dewalt offers a lanyard hook on the back of the tool. Ryobi does not. However, Ryobi does offer a magnetic tray on the bottom of the drill similar to that on other Ryobi cordless drills. In the right situation, this can be a very handy feature.

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The Dewalt DCD710 features rubber bumpers on the top and bottom of the drill. If you choose to lay your drill on it's side, you will not mar up the surface you are laying it on. Ryobi does not offer any rubber bumpers.

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RUN-TIME;

In the run-time test's, we charged and drained each battery 3 times. Then left overnight on the charger. 24hrs later we re-drained the batteries and recharged them for the first test. For lack of time we only tested run-time in a drilling application.

THE SETUP;

We did two test's each, then filmed the 3rd on camera. The test's were done in 2nd gear,(Ryobi single speed) using a brand new Dewalt 1/2" spade bit. Model DW1574. Charged, and operated at 75 degrees. We used a 2x12 kiln dried Douglas Fir premium lumber. It's worth mentioning, that during these test's both drills slowed down to a stop much like a NiCd battery would. A feature not currently common with Dewalt's lithium ion electronics.

After both batteries cooled down, the Dewalt DCB120 still had juice to complete more holes, we did not take those holes into consideration on this test. Ryobi just went low and slow, it did not get very hot, at least not hot enough to shut down the battery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcTav5n3z1s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMk5gXpYTKI

The Dewalt DCD710;

TEST 1  69

TEST 2, 67

TEST 3, 68 1/2

AVERAGE = 68 Holes drilled.

Ryobi HJP002;

TEST 1, 62

TEST 2, 60

TEST 3, 63 1/2

AVERAGE= 61 Holes drilled.

TORQUE;

I did not bother doing a torque test between the two. Ryobi struggled enough just doing 1/2" holes.

CHARGE TIME;

Ryobi advertises a 40 minute charge time. Dewalt advertises a 40 minute charge time. We decided to test the charge time. We completely drained the batteries, and I mean completely! They are as follows.

Ryboi- 40 Minutes

Dewalt- 35 Minutes

SPECS:

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I'm shopping for a 12v right now and it seems you are missing one of the most important factors of comparison: price.  As of 8/28/11, the Dewalt DCD710S2's cheapest price on Google is [glow=red,2,300]$155[/glow] for the kit w/ 2 batteries.  The Ryobi can be had for [glow=red,2,300]$80[/glow] or less for an identical kit w/ charger, case, and two batteries.  While the Dewalt obviously has a slight edge in most categories, I think the consumer needs to weigh these modest benefits against a very high cost premium.

I think I'm going with Ryobi because of price and overall value.  

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This was just a fun review to do, I think everyone who read's this review will certainly take that into consideration. Cost is a huge factor when purchasing tools, this was not a apples to apples comparison. It was more for the DIY'ers to see how a consumer tool stack's up against a professional too.

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