Mr. Yellow Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 TOWSON, Md. – July 30, 2013 DEWALT® announces the launch of its new 20V MAX /12 MAX USB Power Source (DCB090). The new USB Power Source is compatible with all 20V MAX and 12V MAX slide style battery packs and allows users to connect and charge up to two small electronic, USB-compatible devices at a time. The durable and lightweight (.5 lbs) DCB090 is ideal for charging mobile phones, most tablets, MP3 players, and other digital audio devices on or off the jobsite when AC power is not readily available or convenient. “We noticed electronic devices are being used more and more on the jobsite, and users are often frustrated about being forced to leave their devices in their vehicle or in a remote location to recharge them,†says Todd Plajzer, Product Manager, DEWALT. “The USB Power Source provides a convenient and portable charging solution on or off the jobsite.†The DCB090 includes an LED State of Charge indicator that displays the amount of battery power immediately after it is mated with the battery pack and is ready to begin charging. The LED indicator shuts off after 10 seconds to conserve the battery. The DCB090 will retail for $29.99 and will be available wherever DEWALT products are sold in September. The USB Power Source comes with a three-year limited warranty, one-year full warranty, and 90-day money-back guarantee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Wish they would make this for an 18V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano_uk Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Wish I had this yesterday. I think I would use it more away from work than at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quig1984 Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Any body know where in the states you can order this yet? Its a must have for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 http://www.cpopowertools.com/dewalt-dcb090-12v-20v-max-usb-lithium-ion-power-source/dewndcb090,default,pd.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 My little review: Got mine. So far, i only used it one time. With a fully charged 12v Max battery, charged my iPhone 4s from 80% to 100%, Dewalt battery still showed a full charge afterwards. The charge time was equal to that of charging it from a computer, car or A/C wall socket adaptor. Only minor issue i see so far, is that after using it for a while u would have to slide battery off & then slide it back on for the battery charge lights to show u the battery status. Because the 3 battery status lights only light up for the first few seconds the battery pack is installed, then it goes out to save juice. It was worth the $$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerzall Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 The DCB090 is not so good that Dewalt doesn't want to show you any product spec. DCB090 only delivers 1.5 amps for both USB ports, each can give at most 1.3 amp on Apple device, and it only charge Android at max 0.5 Amp. Worst of all, it doesn't even fit tightly on the battery that Dewalt made. If you need to see the remaining battery capacity, you'll need to remove it from the battery and then put it back in. Check our a new after market part by http://www.powerzall.com/ that also fits on Dewalt 20V max batteries and they are running a Kickstarter project to manufacture. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/240165232/powerzall-the-fast-smart-and-powerful-portable-cha PowerzAll is a full 2 Amp x 2 USB outputs, optimized charge for any device and 50% smaller on physical size. Simply said, DCB090 is a device that everyone can make cheaply and PowerzALL is the first device that out performs every charger specs in its class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjones Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 The guy above who is promoting his business aside, the dcb090 is pretty awesome in my opinion. I have one in my brief case, my wife has one in her camera bag (she is a photographer), and I keep another in my golf bag. They are inexpensive, they seem to charge my iphone and ipad very quickly, and since they are a DeWALT device, they will not void any factory warranties (which will happen if you attach third party adapters onto your DeWALT batteries). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerzall Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 The best way to find out is testing yourself. Get 2 of these, Portapow USB Power Monitor. http://www.portablepowersupplies.co.uk/portapow-usb-power-monitor/ You can plug them in the USB ports and see for yourself. Right on the package of DCB090 it says 1.5Amp isn't it? PowerzALL is optimally designed to fit on 18V and 20V lithium ion battery. It even has feature to protect the Dewalt battery better than the Dewalt battery itself has. I love Dewalt products but there's just something might be better out there believe or not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjones Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 The best way to find out is testing yourself. Get 2 of these, Portapow USB Power Monitor. http://www.portablepowersupplies.co.uk/portapow-usb-power-monitor/ You can plug them in the USB ports and see for yourself. Right on the package of DCB090 it says 1.5Amp isn't it? PowerzALL is optimally designed to fit on 18V and 20V lithium ion battery. It even has feature to protect the Dewalt battery better than the Dewalt battery itself has. I love Dewalt products but there's just something might be better out there believe or not! Nothing against your product, and best of luck to you. Consumers who use it WILL however void there battery warranty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerzall Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Nothing against your product, and best of luck to you. Consumers who use it WILL however void there battery warranty. I totally respect Dewalt but scare tactic is not the right way to treat the consumer. I don't see Apple void their warranty if someone plug a cable into its phone. So why Dewalt can't let people use more of their battery? Or the Dewalt battery is not good enough and they afraid to let people freely use it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjones Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 First off, I am not speaking for DeWALT, just my personal experience and opinion. DeWALT cannot be expected to recognize a three year warranty on a battery when it is being used with electronics that they do not own/control. It is not a scare tactic, it is just the reality of the industry. Second, the DeWALT 20v max batteries are only minorly controlled by the chip in the battery. The electronics in the tool manage the battery, including the discharge level that they need to be shut down at. If a lithium battery discharges too far it can be damaged. This is proprietary software (for every lithium tool manufacturer). Again, I am not saying anything defamatory towards you or your product. However, if you use a public information forum to promote your own product, there has to also be room for others to point out the things that would impact the readers investments in DeWALT. I sincerely wish you the best in your start up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerzall Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Sorry that I was a little too harsh. I understand the safely requirement to develop a product that can safely use its battery. I tested quite a few types of batteries, some are really good that I would not want to mention here but those batteries do manage its battery better by having a management board on the battery that shut itself down when the voltage drop below the low limit. Dewalt 20V however has a very simple management board that does not fully protect itself from being overdrew. That is the fault of the battery, not the fault of the attachment device that needs to use the battery. It's Dewalt's inefficient design of the 20V system is the problem. Instead of they only need to have one good battery management board on the battery and no battery management on the attachment devices that uses the battery, now they have battery management board on every attachment devices. Go figure! PowerzALL recognizes this limitation of the Dewalt 20V battery and fully implemented a safety protection for shutting down the adapter when the Dewalt battery's low limit is reached. Think about car's battery for a second, when a car battery went bad, it's the fault of the battery and the battery manufacture must honor their warranty, don't blame the car that uses the battery. Dewalt should really go back and design their battery better. I do present PowerzALL and I just point out the issues and compare the facts to educate the readers. Dewalt is a very reputable brand that no way that I can compete with. However there are rooms for improvements that I believe the PowerzALL brand can bring real value for the consumers by building a small product with more advanced features. I really wish to collaborate with Dewalt but they don't seem to be interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjones Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 You're speaking to a lot of points that you clearly do not understand. I a sure that you know much more about the complete technology than I do, however your understanding of the power tool industry as a whole is not to the same level. I mean no offense, and if you weren't trying to post this on a power tool forum but instead were just trying to use your jump starter, I never would have bothered to respond. I will make one last comment on this, and then I am going to quit wasting my time. It is not a design flaw or poor craftsmanship that the 20v battery is not internally protected, it is because they are only intended to work with DeWALT power tools (same as every other tool brand). By keeping the electronic controls in the tools themselves, they can be better tuned to each individual tool as well as save substantial cost on each battery, which in turn saves the consumer money when they go to buy said battery. I will say again, best of luck to you in your startup. The USB charger is obviously a good idea, which is why a umber of the power tool brands have one for their proprietary battery packs. The reason you buy one brand over the other in this case is so that they fit the battery platform you already own, not because of some revolutionary fitment or charging speed. The market for this type of device is already saturated, and the main reason that DeWALT even released one in these market conditions is because it is what powers the heated jackets, so selling it by itself was an easy addition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerzall Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 I'm learning and you are really teaching me. I really thank you for that and there are still very much that I don't understand. There may be really trade secrets in the battery, or said so by the different manufactures. When I look from the engineering stand point, in the core of Dewalt battery is just a package of power cells made readily available to the public by other companies such as Sanyo, Samsung .... These cell are one of the best out there and the specs of those cell are designed by the battery manufactures, not a secret sauce that made up by Dewalt. Dewalt just simply integrates one of the best batteries into their package. I hear you said but I think it's just smoke and mirror that you said they have magic way to use the cell battery better than it was designed for. Admittedly, Dewalt makes kick butt tools but it's the motor in drill that deliver the power and the drill simply draw needed current from the battery. When I tried Dewalt drill with a Milwaukee M18 battery or a Makita or a Bosch battery, the drill work the same way. There's no magic here in the Dewalt battery. Agree that you are very right about the state of the market for portable chargers. The market is saturated with low end portable charger products and none of them really stand out. At this point, all I can do is trying to make the best device, not one of the same as the crowd and let the consumer figures out which one they want to buy. I think we really got a very good discussion that many of the readers will find it very interesting to read and I salute you for following up with a new bee like me. Cheer and let all try to make better tools for the customer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 The DCB090 is not so good that Dewalt doesn't want to show you any product spec. DCB090 only delivers 1.5 amps for both USB ports, each can give at most 1.3 amp on Apple device, and it only charge Android at max 0.5 Amp. Worst of all, it doesn't even fit tightly on the battery that Dewalt made. If you need to see the remaining battery capacity, you'll need to remove it from the battery and then put it back in......... I press the 12v MAX battery on it until it snaps/locks on, never had an issue. My iPhone 4S seems to charge at the same rate if its off a Dewalt battery or plugged into computer/wall. The only issue i have with it is the battery monitor and having to remove/replace the battery like you said. The place to buy that i mentioned before seems to be at full retail, since then i have seen it elsewhere cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjones Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 The DCB090 is not so good that Dewalt doesn't want to show you any product spec. DCB090 only delivers 1.5 amps for both USB ports, each can give at most 1.3 amp on Apple device, and it only charge Android at max 0.5 Amp. Worst of all, it doesn't even fit tightly on the battery that Dewalt made. If you need to see the remaining battery capacity, you'll need to remove it from the battery and then put it back in......... I press the 12v MAX battery on it until it snaps/locks on, never had an issue. My iPhone 4S seems to charge at the same rate if its off a Dewalt battery or plugged into computer/wall. The only issue i have with it is the battery monitor and having to remove/replace the battery like you said. The place to buy that i mentioned before seems to be at full retail, since then i have seen it elsewhere cheaper. What generation of batteries do you have? All of my batteries have the state of charge indicator built in, so the gauge on the adapter isn't really necessary. Glad you are having good results! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 DCB120 type 1 2010 35-YS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerzall Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 older DCB200 and 201 don't have the battery gauge. So having the LEDs for reading battery can be useful. The front of the DCB090 doesn't snug tightly on the battery, you can wiggle it rather a lot, which causes the battery contact to be moving and loosen over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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