Dano123 Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 How do you guys think these two compare? I have the M12 and M18 brushed impacts and I would like to upgrade one or the other to Fuel. The power of my M18 is fine and really the M12 is decent for what I do. I mainly use my tools to build patio furniture and other misc projects as well as home maintenance. I don't use my tools daily, but I would say I use them more than the average DIY guy. I am mainly wanting the Fuel for battery life and I plan to give whichever I replace to my step dad. I just bought him the M12 drill/hackzall kit so I could get the bare tool in the M12 and he would still have 2 batteries from that kit. If I go the M18 route I would need to give him a battery and charger as well so I would need to buy the kit. My main question is, does the M12 Fuel live up to the hype of it hanging with the 18v impacts or should I spend the extra money and get the M18? I appreciate any input. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 As long as you not putting in 3" screws and drilling 1" holes all day the m12 seems to have a decent battery life but the m18 does have a lot more battery life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 m12 is a little beast, I want to say it has around 1200 inch pounds of torque, which is huge for a 12v, rivals many 18v models, the m18 gen 2 fuel has 1800 inch pounds of torque, you might be able to pick up a straggler gen 1 kit with 1600 inch pounds cheaper... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dano123 Posted February 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Thanks for the input. I will still have my brushed m18 for bigger screws and lags. HD has a sale going on for the Fuel M12 impact 2 battery kit plus a free tool or 4.0 battery for $169. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Thanks for the input. I will still have my brushed m18 for bigger screws and lags. HD has a sale going on for the Fuel M12 impact 2 battery kit plus a free tool or 4.0 battery for $169. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk You won't be disappointed with the m12 probably has the same power as your m18 brushed Jimbo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dano123 Posted February 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Perfect. I will order it now. Thanks Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gharddog03 Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 This is all you need. 147$ no tax https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/222001742010 Milwaukee 2404-22 M12 Fuel 1/2" Hammer Drill / Driver Kit - BRAND NEW !!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dano123 Posted February 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 http://m.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-FUEL-12-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-1-2-in-Cordless-Hammer-Drill-and-Driver-Kit-with-4-0Ah-Lithium-Ion-Battery-2404-22-48-11-2440/204235344 Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dano123 Posted February 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 For another $30 I could get a second 4.0 battery. How well does the drill drive screws? I have been using impacts for so long I don't think I ever tried to drive a screw with either of my drills. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmcmillan Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I'd take a hackzall or multitool over a spare battery. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-FUEL-12-Volt-Lithium-Ion-1-2-in-Cordless-Hammer-Drill-Driver-Kit-with-M12-HACKZALL-Reciprocating-Saw-Tool-Only-2404-22-2420-20/205044625 http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-FUEL-12-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-1-2-in-Cordless-Hammer-Drill-Driver-Kit-with-M12-Multi-Tool-2404-22-2426-20/205044492 You'll already have two batteries so get something to use the second one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dano123 Posted February 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 http://m.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-FUEL-12-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-1-2-in-Cordless-Hammer-Drill-Impact-Combo-Kit-with-M12-3-8-in-Right-Angle-Drill-2597-22-2415-20/205044699 Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dano123 Posted February 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I am going to grab this set with the right angle drill. I already have the hackzall and 4 M12 batteries Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 The drill is very powerful for a 12 volt Jimbo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dano123 Posted February 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 I have always been scared to buy a 12v set since 18v seemed to be the standard. I had the full line of Black and Decker 18v for years with surprisingly good luck. I know they are "junk", but for the DIY guy on a budget they worked well for me. My best friend is a union carpenter and a huge Dewalt guy and has made fun of them for years, but I don't use my tools like he does so they held up well. I finally broke down and upgraded my line last year and, just to keep up our tool arguments, I went with the Milwaukee M18. I recently ended up buying the M12 drill/hackzall combo because I liked the smaller hackzall and I only use it to cut pvc, copper, emt and other misc light duty jobs (I have the super sawzall for bigger jobs). I was very impressed with the M12 drill which led me to buy the M12 brushed impact. My step dad is a corded guy all the way and with a metal roof project coming up I decided to buy him a cordless set. Hopefully the Fuel drill/brushed impact will work for him. Thanks again for the input. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dano123 Posted February 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 Well said. I am like you were, the 12v tools are new to me and I didn't want to waste money on them if they have inferior power. Driving deck screws is most of what I do and I don't need 1800 in lbs to do that. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dano123 Posted February 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 I have the M18 brushed hammer drill, impact with 2 xc and a 5.0 battery plus the m12 stuff so I should be good Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 I gifted my M12 Fuel drill and impact driver to my parents. The impact does not offer significant size reduction compared to my 2753. In fact, it is longer, and I prefer slide packs to stem packs. If I was budget conscious and looking for versatility I would get an M18. That said, I do have M12 in my collection, and there are some real gems in that line. I'm hoping this year's tool symposium will show off gen 2 M12 that has the Fuel drills go on a big diet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dano123 Posted March 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 That 5.0 battery is awesome for sure. I am looking for a set for my step dad who is a die hard corded tool guy. I bought him the m12 drill/hackzall kit last week, but I ended up returning it. I ordered the m12 fuel hammer drill and impact kit with the free right angle drill from HD. My plan was to give him the fuel drill and my brushed m12 impact plus a 2.0 and 1.5 battery and I will keep the rest. Now I am considering keeping the fuel kit and giving him the brushed drill and impact with two 1.5 batts. He has a metal roof project coming up so that set should work fine for him plus I am going to bring my tools when we do it. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 Yea you can burn a 1.5 ah pack fairly quick depending in what your doing Jimbo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dano123 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 The fuel fit in good. As for the 1.5 batteries, this will be a good starter set for him that we can add to at holidays Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dano123 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I do like my shelf/tool box I made. I normally use my tools in my garage/shop so the shelf keeps them accessible, but it's a pain to load everything up when I work on a project elsewhere. I made this box that hangs on a french cleat or it closes up to become portable. This is just a prototype out of scrape. The front cover slides under the bottom when it's on the wall. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnarlyCarl Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 That's slick! Did it help that Milwaukee put the measurement of how far apart the screw holes were when mounting the chargers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dano123 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I actually mounted them to strips of wood and screwed them to the back. It gave me channels to tuck the cords in and made it easier to arrange them. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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