Codejack
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Any experience with ATD?
https://www.toolsource.com/sets-c-194_238_787/7pc-plier-set-p-169379.html?tsqtid=
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Just now, BMack37 said:
That sucks. The sockets and wrenches are insanely nice for the price...that being said, I haven't ordered. I like having SAE and Metric but he rarely has the SAE stuff.
Yea, that would prevent me from using their stuff as my main tools, but I'm looking at the zero offset box end wrenches, which I really only need in metric.
I've been desperately searching for other sources of pliers; I was on Matco's website... and they have rebranded Channellocks at 5 times the price.
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OK, Schmidt got back to me.
He says that he's about to stop importing Toptul because no one is buying them. If anyone else is interested, he can get a box, but they come 6 or 10 in a package.
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1 hour ago, BMack37 said:
Shoot Dennis a message and ask him if he's going to be importing any more pliers. He won't special order for you but if he's buying some already, shipping is cheaper. He's the unofficial Toptul US distributor. https://www.ebay.com/usr/schmidtdn?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
Toptul makes good stuff. They made the really nice chrome Kobalt ratchets that were recently discontinued. Their wrenches are very well liked by the users, comparing them to Snap On and other high end manufacturers.
Very nice!
No pliers on there right now; I'll drop him a note. I've been looking for some zero-offset wrenches...
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6 minutes ago, BMack37 said:
8" NWS made Irwin: https://www.amazon.com/VISE-GRIP-Leverage-Diagonal-Powerslot-1902413/dp/B00N3VSPF0/https://www.amazon.com/VISE-GRIP-Leverage-Diagonal-Powerslot-1902413/dp/B00N3VSPF0/
My NWS needlenose have straight-cut teeth.
That's exactly what I need... but $35!
I actually found some that I really like from Toptul, but the tools are ~$15 and the shipping is $30... each.
3 minutes ago, BMack37 said:Slip-Joint, Tekton is made in the USA by Wilde and cheap. The handles are thicker than they look, thicker than Channellock: https://www.amazon.com/TEKTON-8-Inch-Joint-Pliers-37123/dp/B00KLY1F9U/
These are Tekton's other made in USA pliers (That's it, slip and tongue and groove, the rest are China):
https://www.amazon.com/TEKTON-90394-Tongue-Groove-3-Piece/dp/B00TJQKWYU/
I'd also consider these, they sound like a gimmick but Engineer's screw gripping pliers are one of my most valuable tools, if there's a head to grab, they always remove the screw. Made in Japan:
https://www.amazon.com/Engineer-PZ-56-Screw-Pliers-XP/dp/B000W9IV82/
You know, the Tektons were what I was looking at in the first place when the reddit tool forum guys turned me off of them and told me to go buy the Channellocks...
I think that I will try to sell the CLs, buy the Tektons for now and save up for some NWS Irwins...
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Ok, I went and looked at the NWS Irwins, and I'm not wild about them.
6" straight cutters or 8" angled... and I want 8" straight.
Crosshatch pattern on the needlenose; I don't know what that is supposed to be good for, but it's not what I do.
And no slip-joint pliers, at all.
Those are the 3 that I really need, too. The regular Irwins are China, not even Taiwan.
I looked at the Husky set at home depot, and if those are the same as Gearwrench, I don't want them, either.
Neither Lowe's nor HD carried the good Stanley pliers (Fatmax/professional/ maxsteel), although they had Fatmax everything else.
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Just now, BMack37 said:
Which model of Kleins have you used? There are different cutters with vastly different quality and durability. I wasn't a fan of Klein until I figured that out, now I think they're a solid choice.
That might be it, but this was 20 years ago; I have no idea which ones they were
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2 minutes ago, Stercorarius said:
Yeah dikes aren't really a great choice for hose clamps. That being said the Irwin nws cutters go through hose clamps/nails/screws/Romex/cable like butter. Can cut a 10 penny nail without a nick.
I might grab the NWS cutters and the Taiwan knock-off needlenose and slip joint; I don't abuse them nearly so badly
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1 minute ago, Cr8ondt said:
Bite the bullet you'll be glad you did.
You know, I notice right away the difference between those and the Channellocks that I bought; the finish is good, the teeth are straight and go all the way to the end of the jaw (the CLs have a ~3mm flat area at the end, no wonder they don't grip!), and they are just... leaner. Less wasted metal.
They are expensive and don't have the grips that I like; I'll go buy NWS-sourced Irwin if that's the route I really have to take.
How are the high end Taiwan units?
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Just now, SetBuilder said:
I have to agree with Sparky, if you think Kleins dull too fast then I'm not sure what will make you happy. I can usually get years out of a pair or Klein cutters. Most guys I know buy them as the "GOOD' ones. I recently bought a pair of Knipex, but have not had them long enough to comment.
I've been using Stanley pliers and Irwin vise-grips for the last 15 years or so, both of which have been good, but I can't find the high end Stanleys, and the Irwins are one of the sets I linked to. My current set is small (size), small (few), old and rusty.
I think that a lot of people who use Kleins use them almost exclusively on soft copper and braided steel wire, and less hardened steel, tubing, etc, Klein being best known in the electrical trade (although even when I was apprentice electrician, I switched to Greenlee almost immediately). I have to cut through spring-style hose clamps fairly often, and that chews soft cutters up in a hurry.
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Just now, Stercorarius said:
What trade are you in?
Auto repair, some construction/electrical; electronics on the side.
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5 minutes ago, sparky603 said:
I can't see anyone not happy with the quality of Klein US-made pliers being happy with Irwin or Gearwrench.
The edges dull really fast.
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Just now, jtkendall said:
I have Gearwrench tongue and groove pliers, needle nose pliers, and diagonal cutters, not the exact same models you have listed. I like them, easy on the hands even though mine are the standard red dipped grips but the ones you linked to should be just as comfortable if not more so.
Excellent; do they work well? The cutters, especially, I am worried about, since they will dull quickly if they aren't hardened properly.
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Just now, Stercorarius said:
Ah at least we agree on one thing them. If the big grips are what you are after try the newer Irwin's. The grips are much better shaped then the ones in that Amazon listing. The few Irwin sells that are rebranded NWS from Germany are knipex quality with better grips.
Favorite pair of cutters right there. That style of grips is very comfortable for big hands.
I've looked at those, but...
1. Expensive!
2. Short normal cutters or long pivot cutters (they don't open as wide), neither of which I want.
3. No slip-joint (my favorite tool for hose clamps) or tongue-and-groove, at all.
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Just now, Stercorarius said:
Ah we have very different tastes in pliers then because my recommendation would be channellock ones. Maybe try klein. I am not a fan of Klein so maybe they would suit your tastes a little better.
Klein has those same thin grips; I have big hands and I get cramps using them.
Also, I have not have good luck with Klein, quality-wise.
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2 minutes ago, Foneguy said:
One word ....... Knipex
Two words: Too much!
$110 for 4 pliers? Also, I don't like their grips.
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I've been needing some new/more pliers, and I got talked into buying a Channellock set; I already had some that I didn't like, but I got a lot of grief for not liking them, and so many people insisted that the new ones were better that I decided to give them a try.
Long story short: I hate them. I don't think that they work very well, the finish is poor, the fit is off, and the grips are terrible.
I need some new pliers.
I am considering these:
I have some old Irwins that I love, but the new ones are supposedly not as good; on the other hand, the same people who told me that told me that Channellocks were good, so....
Anyone have any experience with newer Irwin or Gearwrench pliers?
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1995 Mazda MX-6!
Currently at 225,000 miles, still uses 5W-30. Timing belt is coming up, again
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20 hours ago, WrenchGuru said:
Hey Bullwinkle, how's it going with your own "mechanicing?" What's your tool arsenal like?
Hey!
I'm doing freelance work and flipping cars. Last week was a timing belt on a Honda and replacing shocks on an Explorer. This week looks like a head gasket on a Maxima. I've got a Miata I've got to sell to get money for my next flip, but it took too long to get fixed up; I missed summer
I'm trying to get on with a regular shop, since there are so many vacancies, but without any verifiable experience since I was a battery & lube tech back in the 20th century...
My tools? I don't have pictures of my tap & die set, electric impact, angle grinder, sanders, etc; pretty much just the hand tools, and a solid 80% of it is Harbor Freight:
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3 minutes ago, BMack37 said:
You will probably want to upgrade that box at some point, something bigger
Yea, it's already too small; I don't have room for my Dremel, tap & die set or angle grinder, and my entire socket set is in another 3-drawer box. Plus I still need a bunch of big stuff: Bearing kit, compression tester, radiator pressure tester, brake caliper wind-back kit, slide hammer, etc.
I've got to make some money before I spend too much more money, though
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> If I was looking to replace bars on a chest I'd probably search for replacements, post somewhere about finding them for the specific chest, and if I can't find them try to make my own
Yea, I was just surprised because I did search and didn't see anything. I was actually tempted to make a video of it
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I just thought that it was weird that I literally could not find any information on the subject; surely I'm not the first person to lose the lock bars to a chest, has everyone else just thrown the entire box away?
Or is the solution just so obvious that no one else has ever asked?
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OK, well, in case anyone is curious, I went and bought a 3' length of metal bar stock, cut it to length, bent an elbow in the long piece and ground a notch out of it.
It's ugly (maybe I'll paint them), but it works.
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Sorry if you've seen this elsewhere, but I haven't found any help, yet.
I had to leave my tools with my brother for several years, and when I got them back, lots of stuff was missing, of course, including the lock bars. Now, I have replaced all the tools, but I'm not sure what to do about the lock bars, and I am applying to service jobs so I need to be able to lock up my tools
Does anyone know where I can find replacements, or what kind of bar stock I should get to cut and bend to fit?
Here's the box (plus some tool porn
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And here's the tool porn; look at all my crap tools!
If you're curious, I have a completely separate box with sockets and plain combination wrenches.
Pliers?
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I found them! I just can't get them into this country without paying through the nose for shipping. (Toptul)
Or, if I could find the stupid @$!#ing Stanley Fatmax pliers! Lowe's has everything in the world in that line, except pliers. Amazon has them, but the reviews say they aren't the right ones. Stanley's own website says that there are no retailers who have them.
It's like some kind of twisted plot....