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On 01/09/2017 at 2:43 PM, Framer joe said:
Ya, don't buy that....there is no litterateur I'm aware of from Dewalt stating that using their own rapid charger reduces battery life...I mean they added a fan for heat displacement no ? I'm not an engineer,( although I do spec steel beams at work) ..
....and actually I still have dozens of 4 and 5 ah batteries since they came out still running strong.....besides if it's what I need for my company or the others , ya I replace thousands in batteries every year...bottom line I use tools to make money and make my bosses money,,,..really don't care about longevity, it would be nice if everything lasted but understandably not realistic......
...I would buy a tool for just 1 use if it made me big bucks......if I said buy this tool for 1k that you need to do the job and you make 4K profit ...wouldn't you..? I do..
as a general point neither fast charging of fast discharging are good for life span a lithium battery
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On 10/05/2017 at 11:50 AM, Framer joe said:
Makita kicks everyone's ars ? That's insane.. First ,td170,not even close to beating Dewalt dcf877, not specs..real world use....the other crew I run uses only Makita corded and cordless, including the newest cordless tools....Makita is a third level company behind Dewalt and Milwaukee......the fuel sawzall kills the new AVR makita ...the 7.25 Makita cordless mitre sucks ....the circ saws,are a joke.......Makitas batteries charge fast and your gonna need a fast charge ,cuz they don't last long..
Garage use demos and real world building are two different worlds,,,,I give props when props are due a company,,..Flexvolt rocks,Fuel rocks,M12 rocks and 20v max tools are great....
Makita make some lovely tools but boy I see a lot of dead Makita batteries. I don't know if it's just because I see more Makita stuff or of they break more but the batteries definitely seem to crap out a lot.
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Literally the only difference
1 hour ago, pcsparx said:hi guys,
In NZ we have the 54V XR flexvolt tools compared to the american 60V max flexvolt tools.
One tool that we can't buy here is the flexvolt stud and joist drill.
So my question is if I were to have NZ authorised 54V XR flex volt batteries could i buy the american 60V max stud and joist drill bare tool from a parallel importer and use my 54V XR batteries to power it
cheers
literally the only difference is the sticker. The 54v battery can read up to 60v (max) on a voltmeter when fully charged and not under load. In reality it is just a 54v battery with some marketing b.s. In New Zealand and many other countries I.e. the UK, Australia etc there are laws which prevent companies making statements with the intention of misleading or which are likely to mislead, it is under the Fair Trading Act. Although saying 60v (max) 20v (max) is truthful by the exact wording, it is a statement that is made to try to manipulate the labeling to differentiate the product from competitors and create a false impression of being more powerful tool, for example a 20v max being more powerful than an 18v tool when in fact it is the same. Outside the state's it is quite possibly illegal (the specific case hasnt been tested in court) to label their tools 60v max as it is an attempt to create a false impression to the consumer. Anyway mix and match to your hearts content they are exactly the same tools with a different sticker. I
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57 minutes ago, Sarbatche said:
Hm. I took too superficial of a look at it. It looks like a worm drive, but I see now that it's still a direct drive saw with a rear handle added. Maybe I'll get one and add a beam saw attachment anyway. :shrug:
worm drives are quite inefficient when it comes to energy use, that doesn't mean they are bad it just means that when you have a limited energy supply i.e. a battery instead of mains power you are better to run a direct drive saw without a gear box etc. When you are running off mains you don't have to worry about the reduced efficiency because you have an unlimited supply of energy. Anyway that as a long winded way of saying direct drive is better with batteries
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I have enough batteries that charging is never really an issue, so to be honest I don't really worry about charge times within reason. I generally drop some batteries on the chargers when I get home and don't worry about it. I actually use the 4ah more as it doesn't buzz away in the garage like the 8ah one esoecially if im doing things nearby. I also try to charge my batteries ehen the get to around 40% give or take (a lot) to orotect the cells But I can see if you are trying to cycle through one or two batteries and you were draining them super quick it would matter.
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the only dewalt charger that is 'shit in my view is the 1.25 ah one and that isn't really shit it is just only really designed for the 12v 21wh batteries so for what it is designed for it is fine it just isn't the best if you drop a 4ah plus battery on it, and I guarantee you the kit won't come with that charger. I have the 1.25 the 4ah and the 8ah charger and both the 4 and the 8 are just fine. I often use the 4 just because it is quite. I would goes it will come with the 4
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9 hours ago, Jronman said:
Have you gotten a chance to try it out?
It seems like it doesn't get as much credit for what its worth. Maybe because its not a Festool or Makita.
I've never used it so I can't say to much. But at least at the moment I find a cordless track saw a nice idea but sort of odd. when you use a track saw it is almost always connected to a vacuum which requires a power connection for the auto on off function and the cordless track saw doesn't seem to have Bluetooth functionality or anything to solve this problem in the future. Secondly when you are already connected to a vacuum for extraction ( which isnt cordless powered anyway) I don't really see much gain in the saw being cordless. I see why the made it because it is a relatively minor development on the circular saw( I.e cheap to develop) but at the same time I can't see any point in replacing the Makita for a tool that just seems to be cordless for the sake of it without creating many benefits, but which creates a major negative in terms of auto on/off extraction not working
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the great thing with an electric gun is that it is easier to run a consistent bead of silicon as you don't have release and squeeze the trigger like a manually gun, you just hold the trigger at the desired pressure.and you get a continuous flow rate and even bead
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I'm pretty much just stoked dewalt are putting out a decent 18v angle grinder about 15 years after every other brand😂
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On 22/08/2017 at 6:50 AM, Turner85 said:Im not too sure what you mean by 240v power station. Do you mean the one that takes 4 batteries? If so not available in europe along with the stud drill as far as i can see
yes. I was just making my point that if a tool that runs on two of the same batteries is a different platform then so is a tool that runs on 4. I would argue that a platform is defined as 'a group of tools that can all be run off the same style of battery and charger'. Otherwise you get silly like what I was saying above
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On 22/08/2017 at 11:15 PM, Turner85 said:
Yes they do on site. I stay away from sitework though so i stick with 240v tools it just means if i ever do get offered site work they wont allow my tools in the gate
wow that's crazy most places around the world run 240v on site. You are just required to have and RCD which is no hassle as you almost always need a multi box on site anyway and they are pretty much the same size as a standard multi box. It is good practice to run and RCD at either voltage anyway plus modern electrical switchboards have RCDs in them.
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3 hours ago, Turner85 said:
In europe it comes at an extra cost of about €150.
is the 240v power station a different platform?
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3 hours ago, JakeDewalt said:
120v is definantly a platform.
Just one yet to fully be recognized.
And the opportunities are endless
If you normally use Makita 18v and you own a 2 times 18v circular saw as part of your 18v collection do you have another platform or are you just using two of your 18v batteries at the same time. so is dewalt 240v also a platform with just one tool?.?.?
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Just now, Jronman said:
so its 60Vx2?
yes that is exactly what it is. It's not like there are special 120v batteries and chargers it's just an extension of the flexvolt platform
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3 hours ago, JakeDewalt said:120v Dual Bevel 12in Miter
Love it
But I have this 120v power adapter that when not using the miter saw is completely useless.
20v has 100+ tools
60v has about 10 tools at this point maybe more
120v has 1 Tool.
The platform has a 120v Gap.
120v isn't a platform, it is just an extension of the 60v platform. The 120v adapter comes with the saw so it's not like you buy it especially for a new platform, it is just an accessory for the mitre saw. It's not like you invest in a 120v platform you invest in flexvolt 60v and you get the capability of running 120v as an ad on
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On 17/08/2017 at 3:46 PM, dwain said:
yeah I know, I've just never though to myself "this 1500W side-winder doesn't have enough power"
It's probably because I'm quite young, and the last 8-odd years that I've used power tools (apart from the odd drill), have been spoiled by more and more powerful tools.
Especially the1800w Makita mag sidewinders. IMO the best saws out there. I'd say the blade would buckle or you would get some horrendous kickback before you would mange to stall the saw. There is a reason that no one outside the US uses them and there is also a reason no one outside the US and the Banana republic of bananas still use the imperial system. Because they are outdated sort of like 120v, shots fired. FYI tongue is firmly in cheek
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On 08/08/2017 at 7:04 PM, Tug said:
Love the concept of these, but can't see real world use unless you've got a large stack of batteries. If you don't have a lot of batteries, you're gonna need power nearby to recharge it, if you've got power nearby then you don't need it. If you're working out in the field, literally, then you'll need stacks of batteries or a petrol generator, but if you've got a petrol generator, then why bother with this? Only useful as a standby power supply of you've got batteries pre-charged, I never leave cells fully charged as I've been taught it's harmful to lithium cells to store them fully charged.
Like I said, loving the concept, but can't see me ever needing one.
Would like to hear other views on my comments.
it's a tools that is great if you need to charge a lot of batteries or if you are in an industry where there isn't always easy access to power. It isn't a tool that is design for every man, I don't think I will ever buy one because I don't really have a need to charge large quantities of batteries (beyond my 2 chargers current capabilities) and I seldom need remote power beyond my cordless tools capacity. But for rexample members who own farms could find it super handy when they need to get a small amount of welding or another job done in a paddock and they don't want to lug around a heavy petrol generator, find the empty petrol can and the have the thing not start, it would be so convenient to just plug in and go without having to start it etc.
Or if you work in a sound sensitive area and need power etc.
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Do US framing nails have to be round heads? I have never seen a paslode that doesn't shoot 90mm nails which are the standard framing size where I live and is slightly over 3 1/2, but those are D heads
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the small flexvolt saw is almost a waste of time in my opinion as it only bevels one way. I will never buy a saw that only bevels on way it is to much of a pain you end up cutting things upside down and all sorts
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the thing I find a bit odd about this is that you have reached this conclusion just as Dewalt is putting out or has put out a large number of tools of great tools. A year ago it would have made total sense i was tempted to ditch dewalt, but now, not so much
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7 hours ago, Framer joe said:
So just wondering what other guys have for the home garage,,,,I'm no mechanic, but I pieced together a chest of tools (Dewalt tool chest,definitely not a pro chest) just from advice on YT ,blogs, forums....
....Klein screwdrivers (cushion grip) and electrical stuff
....Bahco adjustable wrenches
...Tekton impact sockets (deep/shallow) 3/8 and 1/2, breaker bar, torque wrench,misc
...Channellock pliers
...Craftsman floor jack,creeper
Just curious if guys use Milwaukee ,Dewalt or other brand hand tools for mechanical work, I use those brands and husky at work..
Bahco male really nice socket sets for the money, nicer than dewalt imo they are part of the same group as snap-on. They are made in Spain rather than Sweden now but they are still really nice
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2 hours ago, Hugh Jass said:
I don't think it would have enough ass to fire through 2x and then steel. Actually I don't know of anything that does short of nitroglycerin, lol. But for attaching clips and whatnot, still very useful. Maybe if the steel was quite thin but I think it would lose too much inertia to penetrate much after 2x.
As for the semantics of pin vs nail, same thing but Ramset calls them pin's thus so do I.
need 6mm or about a 1/4 inch penetration into steel typically, as the heat generated helps bond the steel to the pin. It looks interesting but I suspect the more limited pin depth will make it quite niche. I currently use a Hilti 10 shot that shoots up to 3 inch nails with charges. If it can secure a 4 by 2 to concrete or steel or even something a bit thicker than a 4 by 2 it will be useful otherwise it is pretty specialist
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38 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:
Is it just me or does this look unusually compact?
Dewalts slowly talking me out of Flexvolt bit by bit outside of 120v offerings. Rear handle blade left coming, chainsaw, now this...me gusta.
personally I would just buy flexvolt batteries as your current ones die or you need more, then you can run any dewalt tools you want and it won't matter if they are flex or 20v
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60V max vs 54V XR
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I'm the same, but I have read people asking questions like 'are 20v better than 18v volt better than 18v (insert different brand) so there are some people that do get confused and even the question above points to that confusion. I personally find the nee dewalt cordless tools exceptionally reliable, (apart from 2 chargers, 1 was definitely my fault) I have never had a dewalt tool break. That being said there R & D, or lack of at some times in the past (which I strongly suspect was driven in part by short term profit maximisation) has driven me very close to switching cordless brands and almost killed the brand in NZ. People had the choice of nicd dewalt vs lithium Makita, Hitachi Bosch etc for many years and Dewalt got a reputation for extreme underperformance and unreliability, many people and some shops won't touch it anymore. They seem to be on a better track now though. Don't worry I exalt the virtues of the tools now days but the corporate management (largely) in the past has been questionable. That is pretty off topic lol