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Isn't Greenworks 80 volt a dying battery system? Seems like 60v and 82v platforms are getting all the new tools...
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On 5/1/2022 at 5:53 PM, kat said:
An here we go, one year later, power tool manufacturers are finally switching to pouch cells!
First are Dewalt and Flex, but rumours are the Makita will be switching too. I hope they won't be the last again
Would the newer Stihl AP500s batteries fit into that category?
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The EGO reel mower you have been waiting for :
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New commercial preview video on youtube.
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German manufacturer AS Motor has announced a whole new range of landscaping machines based on the EGO 56v battery platform.
Some of their equipment will be compatible with the 28ah backpack battery and feature the EGO Peak-power technology (2x56v).
AS may not be that famous in the US but it's a highly regarded professional brand in Europe. They build indestructible mowers designed to perform in rough conditions (tall grass, uneven terrain, steep hills).
This new system is expected to be available in 2022. AS previously released a couple of models featuring the Briggs and Stratton 82li motor (similar to Snapper) before switching to EGO batteries.
Also one has to note that unlike Kobalt, Greenworks, Greenworks Commercial, Stiga, Powerworks, Menard and Snapper, there is no artificial trick to make the battery incompatible across brands.
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@JronmanSince you own both, how powerful is the commercial trimmer compared to the power head? Is there a noticeable difference?
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On 3/15/2021 at 7:16 PM, Erekose200 said:
I wonder why the larger 80v models are being abandoned in favour of the smaller 48v models?
Multiple possible reasons... Perhaps the marketing argument losing some of its weight, people used to compare power tools by voltage alone but this seems to have changed now. Form factor of lower voltage packs is more versatile and often results in lighter handheld tools while batteries can always be coupled to fit the power requirements of larger (wheeled) tools.
I suppose that, from a purely marketing standpoint, it is difficult for globetools to let both "80v pro" and "82v commercial" lines coexist with blatantly similar battery packs and tool design.
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You are probably talking about their newer 48 volt (serie 500) battery...
It seems that many third-party lines based on greenworks 80 volt are now abandoned. Greenworks itself has introduced a new 24/48 system because they thought the world needed a new battery. Such moves make me question the durability of a serious battery investment, not mentioning the environmental aspects...
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6 hours ago, Jronman said:
The latest string trimmer from ego has a bit more rpm but it is still lower than a gas unit.
Possible.... the carbon shaft version has not been released in Europe so I have not tested it. My favorite ego trimmer is the attachment capable version.
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On 2/1/2021 at 5:39 PM, fm2176 said:
The strong trimmer is easily the best EGO product I own. It
Are you talking about the 15"? I hated it, or should I say, it didn't work for me 😆...
Torque is excellent but rotation speed is low. It works wonder against hard stuff but dense, healthy grass tends to bend without getting cut. If you are used to gas trimmers (my previous one was a husqvarna 525lk) that's perhaps where you'll notice the biggest difference.
The blowers are excellent!
Mowers... well they are decent. My gen2 mower lacks lift, cut quality isn't the best, its self-propelled mechanism takes some time to get used to. Despite all its quirks, it is surprisingly pleasant to use and does a good job even in difficult conditions. Haven't tested the gen3 but I have read that many issues from gen2 have been addressed/improved.
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I came across a video on the Makita NZ facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/makitanewzealand/videos/200625024860234
Don't expect to learn a lot from it, it just announces a XGT x2 (80 volt) system. There is no information about this line, we can only imagine that it will be aimed at the larger demanding tools (mowers / backpack blowers).
While looking for more information, I found a couple of new tools on the japanese website:
PDC1200 - A 1200Wh backpack battery compatible with both XGT / LXT x2 platforms.
MUX01GZ - a XGT power head with 3 speed settings.
Despite rumors about a new 50-60 volt system, It seems that XGT could finally be Makita's next main platform for OPE...
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3 hours ago, Eric - TIA said:
That is an interesting find. I wonder if it's only in France?
It's global...
I found an official document in English on the IR website:
https://www.makita.biz/ir/upload_file/tdnrelease/6586_20201029412045_P01_.pdf
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I asked many people that question (neighbors, friends, professionals).
The issues for pros are runtime and performance. Large brushcutters, blowers (eg: Stihl magnum backpack) still lack a battery equivalent.
Homeowners are discouraged by the high upfront cost of batteries and the risk of them failing or losing capacity after a couple of years. When you highlight reduced service cost, there is always someone who answers that his mower/trimmer has been running fine for 10 years without any maintenance.
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I came across this press release on Makita BE website (in french) : (https://www.makita.be/actualite/communiqué-de-presse-notification-de-l’arrêt-de-la-production-de-produits-à-moteur-thermique-1.html)
It announces that the Makita group is officially stopping the production of gas-operated products in March 2022. This decision is based on the growing demand for eco-friendly OPE and should only have minimal impact on financial results. R&D resources will be concentrated on battery technology.
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According to protoolreviews, their respective blowing forces are 11.3N (DUB184) and 14N (DUB362). DUB184 on high lasted 10 minutes with a 5ah battery, DUB362 ran for 11:20 with 2x5ah in their tests.
Unfortunately, there are no data regarding low/medium speed settings, where I'd expect the runtime difference to be largely in favor of the 36 volt version.
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The EGO trimmer with the motor on the rear is much more powerful than the regular version that has the motor located in the head. The power head from Makita (DUX60) also seemed insanely strong compared to the DURXXX equivalent. I also noticed that the most powerful battery trimmer from stihl (Kma 130) and the newest husqvarna (325ilk) both use a rear-mounted motor.
I am no expert but my guess is that having the motor on the rear removes some size constraint and offers more options when it comes to gearing (gear reduction? not sure how exactly it is called in english but you'll get the idea). They may be less energy efficient, but ultimately superior when it comes to speed and raw power.
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Not sure I am doing the math right, but dimensions would be at least 144x65x64 mm or 168x70x84 mm depending on the size of cells.
Perhaps an OPE dedicated battery platform?
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On 1/8/2020 at 8:47 PM, Ido said:
Hallo everyone ..
I would like to ask something as it has to do with differences in between same tools but from different manufacture- countries..
There might be a difference as it has to do with general qualitie of a product..but what about performance..?
For example a dtd171 made in China is the same in performance with the dtd171 made in UK or Japan ?thanks for the help..
As long as their model names are the same, I would not expect much of a difference performance wise. Blueprints are mostly the same and they must comply with the specifications on the product sheet, you should not expect less than advertised.
Even durability doesn't obey a straight logic, it has a lot to do with the quality of the various parts used for assembling the final product. There can be good and problematic series, you can never tell.
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Have you checked the manual?
QuoteInserting the Saw Blade (see figure A1)
Clean the shank of the saw blade before inserting it. An unclean shank cannot be fastened securely.
Push the saw blade holder 13 upward in the direction of the arrow. Insert the saw blade 8 (teeth in cutting direction) to the stop into the saw blade holder. While inserting the saw blade, pay attention that the back of the saw blade is positioned in the groove of the guide roller 7.
Precise cuts are only possible when the guide roller 7 faces closely but not too tight against the back of the saw blade (the saw blade 8 may not be bent by the guide roller). If required, loosen screw 17 and move the holder 16 of the guide roller in such a manner that the guide roller faces closely against the back of the saw blade. Tighten screw 17 again. f Check the tight seating of the saw blade.
I attached the relevant pics.
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After the incident, did you inform somebody at Dewalt? I guess they might be interested to learn more about the circumstances, exact tool model etc...
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12 hours ago, Jronman said:
They may not have been compatible but with a few tweaks they could have.
Certainly, I saw that this can be achieved with most Greenworks clones. But considering the high cost of batteries, I am not sure It's worth sacrifying warranty, unless the tool line gets discontinued.
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14 hours ago, Jronman said:
I kinda wish they stuck with the Chervon batteries. I have no idea if they were compatible with ego stuff and vice versa but it would at least have been a start.
According to a local dealer, EGO and Honda batteries were not compatible despite being pure clones.
Honda HRX/Twincut design and EGO batteries would have been a nice combo.
I wonder why so many manufacturers targeting the EU market settle for 36/40 volt systems (toro, stihl, husqvarna, honda...).
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A couple of years ago, Honda started selling a 56 volt battery system manufactured by Chervon (the chinese group that makes EGO). For some unknown reasons, this 56 volt battery line has never been extended beyond the limited initial offering and looks pretty much outdated and abandoned.
While browsing a german dealer site, I was surprised to notice a 46cm (19") mower based on a brand new 36 volt platform, along with a brushcutter, hedge trimmer and blower. Available battery sizes are 4, 6 and 9 ah. Altough none of these new tool seems particularly impressive on paper (except perhaps for the high price tag), it's interesting to see more and more high-end brands investing into battery OPE.
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