Thanks, Long time lurker, finally bite the bullet & made a account. One of my coworkers has one, & she let me use it for a day. It's definitely one of the best m12 tools but I would like to see an 20volt version for dewalt, that has an bigger capacity for rough ins and maybe a light built in for dark cabinets & a guard just in case the pipe shatters while cutting. My company actually just banned the m12 shears because there isn't a guard, & a couple of people have had pipe shatter into their face.