METABO

[Willy]

Hi I was just wondering what people thought of Metabo. If they have used them before or If they have heard anything positive or Neagtive about them.

 

Thanks,

 

Willly

[BMack37]

I've only heard positive.

[JimboS1ice]

Top notch tool brand, the majority of their tools are still made in Germany, awesome battery technology mostly known for their grinders. They make some kick ass drills too but overall the line isn't as large as some other guys, Lowes tried to carry them but gave up after a month. @kruton has some metabolism stuff.

[FrosBros82]

I have only heard positive too. Most

of the strutural guys carry their grinders. With that, we have an industrial store that has Metabo (Bierschbach). I have asked about it numerous times... to which they tell me it's awesome. However, people don't know much about it so they don't sell loads of it. 

[kornomaniac]

Standout grinders. A few up the date and top of line cordless tools. A bunch of older long in the tooth other cordless tools.

 

Abit like bosch

[Stercorarius]

Yeah. Their brushless tools are the best on the market. If you're a HVAC/plumber/electrician/wood construction guy not the brand for you though. 

[BMack37]

I guess the biggest downside is the limited line. It's not going to be first in class with anything other than grinders, at least for now...but it's going to work well because it's Metabo. Take a look at the TiA Youtube channel, you'll be impressed with Metabo.

 

They're right up there with Festool, Hilti and Fein...Ingersoll Rand electric tools are arguably in this list too.

[BK13]

Most likely, if I buy any more grinders, they will be Metabo (the made in Germany ones).

 

Probably not going to dive into their cordless stuff... I'm too invested in Milwaukee and Makita.

[D W]

I've got a lot of negative to say about them.

 

As mentioned their limited line is a big downside. I tried to be pure Metabo but just couldn't stick with it exclusively. This was more out of wanting better options from competitors. I believe their range is getting better; they now have a one-handed recip and cordless multitool.

 

I also suspect there are some duds in their offerings (like other brands). I owned and since sold the 200Nm impact wrench. My torque wrench said it could only achieve 160Nm (I have also tested it with a 175Nm Makita impact diver and that exceeded 180Nm). I'd say stay away from their brushed impact driver and impact wrench.

 

Their Chinese made stuff seems poorly made, at least from a cosmetic/detailed point of view, but I also doubt they could hold up the "Metabo is tough" reputation.

 

From the stuff I have had, or still own, their grips often have wide seems in the over-mold which is uncomfortable. I've also had a couple of tools have different thicknesses of over-mold and a very noticeable step between each side of the grips (this is VERY uncomfortable). I've also found the plastic housing to not line up correctly around the tools. They just seemed very "slapped" together tools, perhaps a poor production process. The internals may have been great perhaps, but the outside wasn't.

 

The impact wrench I had also had sharp edges on the plastic at the top of the grip that scratched your hand. It was horrible to use. I've since bought Dewalt and Makita tools, and their build quality and attention to detail appears far ahead of some Metabo stuff.

 

Some tools hold the battery tight, others they rattle around. I remember a comment made in a review somewhere about this being a sign of quality. I think its more luck that some are holding tight.

 

Their BS 18 Quick drill is very rough running and in no way smooth, to the point where I cringe when using it (it feels and sounds like you are putting an angle grinder to rubber). Again, I may just have another dud.

 

Some of their drills and impacts do not keep the LED on after releasing the trigger.

 

Their 18v compact blower is lighter weight than the Dewalt version, but isn't as powerful and feels very cheaply made (I sold the Metabo and bought the Dewalt which is heavier but much better quality with a comfortable grip!).

 

The 18v multitool turns off too suddenly and twists in your hand. It was also a very heavy tool that seemed tough and well made. I sold this to get the Dewalt however.

 

The full sized 18v recip saw is quite good for an old brushed model (with LiHD anyway) and i'm hoping a brushless is on the way soon. I still own this, but if I owned Makita at the time I bought it I would have gone for the Makita brushless instead.

 

Their German made cordless grinders are great (I own the 18V brushed) and I suspect their German made drills are just as good. However, in the photos I have seen of them, they also suffer the wide seam issue. Why Metabo? Other brands seem to have better over-mold and have nice, smooth grips. It just looks poor quality. I recently bought a Dewalt DCD796 and the outstanding job they have done on the fine details and smoothness of the over-mold is far ahead of Metabo.

 

Their 2ah compact batteries are lighter weight than 2ah Makita and Dewalt.

 

I used to be a huge Metabo fan, but I think some of the hype has lost touch with the tools they actually put out (Chinese made stuff anyway). Take a good close look at Metabo tools and compare them to others, in some ways they are not as well made (and looked slapped together), and the hype is just hype.

 

Please take my comments in context (I'm just a DIY user). I've also never owned or flogged a tool (or competitors) long enough to see how tough they really are.

[Willy]

5 hours ago, D W said:

I've got a lot of negative to say about them.

 

As mentioned their limited line is a big downside. I tried to be pure Metabo but just couldn't stick with it exclusively. This was more out of wanting better options from competitors. I believe their range is getting better; they now have a one-handed recip and cordless multitool.

 

I also suspect there are some duds in their offerings (like other brands). I owned and since sold the 200Nm impact wrench. My torque wrench said it could only achieve 160Nm (I have also tested it with a 175Nm Makita impact diver and that exceeded 180Nm). I'd say stay away from their brushed impact driver and impact wrench.

 

Their Chinese made stuff seems poorly made, at least from a cosmetic/detailed point of view, but I also doubt they could hold up the "Metabo is tough" reputation.

 

From the stuff I have had, or still own, their grips often have wide seems in the over-mold which is uncomfortable. I've also had a couple of tools have different thicknesses of over-mold and a very noticeable step between each side of the grips (this is VERY uncomfortable). I've also found the plastic housing to not line up correctly around the tools. They just seemed very "slapped" together tools, perhaps a poor production process. The internals may have been great perhaps, but the outside wasn't.

 

The impact wrench I had also had sharp edges on the plastic at the top of the grip that scratched your hand. It was horrible to use. I've since bought Dewalt and Makita tools, and their build quality and attention to detail appears far ahead of some Metabo stuff.

 

Some tools hold the battery tight, others they rattle around. I remember a comment made in a review somewhere about this being a sign of quality. I think its more luck that some are holding tight.

 

Their BS 18 Quick drill is very rough running and in no way smooth, to the point where I cringe when using it (it feels and sounds like you are putting an angle grinder to rubber). Again, I may just have another dud.

 

Some of their drills and impacts do not keep the LED on after releasing the trigger.

 

Their 18v compact blower is lighter weight than the Dewalt version, but isn't as powerful and feels very cheaply made (I sold the Metabo and bought the Dewalt which is heavier but much better quality with a comfortable grip!).

 

The 18v multitool turns off too suddenly and twists in your hand. It was also a very heavy tool that seemed tough and well made. I sold this to get the Dewalt however.

 

The full sized 18v recip saw is quite good for an old brushed model (with LiHD anyway) and i'm hoping a brushless is on the way soon. I still own this, but if I owned Makita at the time I bought it I would have gone for the Makita brushless instead.

 

Their German made cordless grinders are great (I own the 18V brushed) and I suspect their German made drills are just as good. However, in the photos I have seen of them, they also suffer the wide seam issue. Why Metabo? Other brands seem to have better over-mold and have nice, smooth grips. It just looks poor quality. I recently bought a Dewalt DCD796 and the outstanding job they have done on the fine details and smoothness of the over-mold is far ahead of Metabo.

 

Their 2ah compact batteries are lighter weight than 2ah Makita and Dewalt.

 

I used to be a huge Metabo fan, but I think some of the hype has lost touch with the tools they actually put out (Chinese made stuff anyway). Take a good close look at Metabo tools and compare them to others, in some ways they are not as well made (and looked slapped together), and the hype is just hype.

 

Please take my comments in context (I'm just a DIY user). I've also never owned or flogged a tool (or competitors) long enough to see how tough they really are.

 

 

Thanks for the lengthy reply I really appreciate it. I guess thats slightly changed my opinion on Metabo. Even though there are many opinions to go off. I have Makita and Dewalt and have never had a broblem with them. There brushed stuff is pretty good to.

[kornomaniac]

D W has given the best reply possible.

 

Very good grinders and alot of hype from US people who hardly know the brand.

[D W]

12 minutes ago, Willy said:

 

 

Thanks for the lengthy reply I really appreciate it. I guess thats slightly changed my opinion on Metabo. Even though there are many opinions to go off. I have Makita and Dewalt and have never had a broblem with them. There brushed stuff is pretty good to.

 

No prob. I wish I had of asked for opinions before I started buying them. I buy purely online, so I can't compare other brands beforehand and I simply fell for the hype (well, I thought the hype would apply to all Metabo tools). I would have saved a fair bit of money with all the buying and selling Metabo that I've done.

 

How many comparison tests has Metabo come in last place or close to last? A few of Oztooltalks at least. They usually win the grinder tests.

 

 

 

[Willy]

19 minutes ago, D W said:

 

No prob. I wish I had of asked for opinions before I started buying them. I buy purely online, so I can't compare other brands beforehand and I simply fell for the hype (well, I thought the hype would apply to all Metabo tools). I would have saved a fair bit of money with all the buying and selling Metabo that I've done.

 

How many comparison tests has Metabo come in last place or close to last? A few of Oztooltalks at least. They usually win the grinder tests.

 

 

 

Thanks, I would say thre main focus is there grinders. Oz tool talk say they like there Milwaukee 18v fuel grinder. I wonder how that compares to the metabos?

[Stercorarius]

I had the grinder. Used a lot of the fuel grinders as well. Fuel grinders are trash compared to the Metabo grinders. Metabo does make the best 18v grinder. The flexvolt does have more power, but it has no runtime and inferior ergonomics.

[Willy]

cheers

[dwain]

Slow to release new cordless tools. 

Best metal-working range.

Best batteries.

A slight step up in quality than regular trade brands (the german-made tools).

 

Just my opinion.

[FrosBros82]

@dwain for runtime they have the best batteries? 5.0? I don't know too much about them, I just see all the videos like everyone else, for the most part.

[Stercorarius]

40 minutes ago, FrosBros82 said:

@dwain for runtime they have the best batteries? 5.0? I don't know too much about them, I just see all the videos like everyone else, for the most part.

6.2Ah batteries that have been out for years. They were (one of) the first to start using 20700 cells. They have always been ahead with battery tech.

[dwain]

very sure they were first to run 20700 cells. they had 5.2Ah batts when most others were still on 4Ah.

[HiltiWpg]

Metabo and Hilti are very similar in that they both have excellent, well made tools, but suffer from a painfully limited line-up. The quality is superior, the price is premium and the warranty is very good. Not Hilti good, but better than everyone else.


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[D W]

The LiHD batteries are great, they really are. I'm not the most experienced cordless user but I would agree that they have the best battery tech. 

 

If the tool demands it, LiHD actually do provide extra power (as claimed by Metabo) but they also seem to maintain a very consistent level of power. 1 bar of remaining charge still feels a lot like 4 bars. My Makita and Dewalt batteries seem to fade out a lot more once they hit 3 bars and below.

 

Standard Metabo batteries are lighter but slightly larger than most brands.

 

They all have very easy to press fuel gauges and feel really well built and tough. Dewalt batteries seem built like toys when compared. The Makita fuel gauge is very hard to press but their batteries also feel tough and well built (but look cheap) . 

 

I use a 6.2 LiHD on the brushed grinder and recip saw and after hard use I've never had the battery feeling more than just slightly warm. 

 

7.0ah LiHD are on the way! 

[tydog]

Why do you say that?

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[Badmoose]

I I have an older Panasonic drill & driver set that has been awesome.  Very long battery life.  I bought the set at a hardware store in Ohio during their twice yearly tool extravaganza.  Numerous contractors I talked to said they were the best and toughest.  Unfortunately, Panasonic no longer makes them but the Metabo units look like they may be the same, just rebranded.  If they are, that is my next replacement.  Does anyone know if Metabo took them over?

[Drew H]

I have Metabo corded and cordless gear. Bought one of the first cordless kits nearly 20 years ago. One of the two original batteries is still going but retired to home use. The 2.2 ah early Metabo battery has performed better than the new Dewalt  5 ah battery in my latest cordless Dewalt kit. I have had issues with Dewalt batteries although the tools work fine and are maybe a bit flashier looking however I am ditching my 1 year old full set of Dewalt cordless as their tools are no good without a decent battery and their warranty service  is awful(two weeks to find out it will be 8 more weeks before they can replace a 6AH 54V Flexvolt battery). This being said I will never be qualified to comment on durability of the Dewalt tools, although my corded Dewalt circular saw is still awesome after 15 + years of light use .

I work my tools hard in trade use and have also had Panasonic, Hitachi and Makita cordless tool kits over the years. According to tool shop guys I have spoken to Metabo has the best warranty service, however I have never had to use it as their tools I own are all still going strong without issue.

I would say if you are talking home use, any brand will do. I know plenty of trades and see a good representation of most brands in the field.  Trade use, Im going with Metabo...Mostly for the bullet proof battery but also 20 years /no issues with the tools....Im sold on Metabo and will be upgrading the Dewalt kit to Metabo.