yukon42 Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 Well, just got off the phone with Skil. I have a Skil battery powered tool set which uses 18v LI batteries. Couldn't find the batteries anywhere or a substitute LI battery to use. Customer support says my tools are now worthless and unusable as batteries are no longer obtainable for them. Great, a lot of money down the drain. I will NEVER by another Skil brand tool again that's for sure. I'll stick with other brands such as Makita, DeWalt and such. Too bad, I really loved my Skil tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fm2176 Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 On 12/11/2020 at 12:58 PM, yukon42 said: Well, just got off the phone with Skil. I have a Skil battery powered tool set which uses 18v LI batteries. Couldn't find the batteries anywhere or a substitute LI battery to use. Customer support says my tools are now worthless and unusable as batteries are no longer obtainable for them. Great, a lot of money down the drain. I will NEVER by another Skil brand tool again that's for sure. I'll stick with other brands such as Makita, DeWalt and such. Too bad, I really loved my Skil tools. That sucks, unfortunately those Skil tools come from the transition period between NiCad and Li-Ion batteries, when a lot of tool brands ultimately either compromised to maintain compatibility (notably Ryobi and Ridgid) or scrapped their designs for new ones optimized for Li-Ion batteries. My Porter Cable experience was similar, where I ended up with most of the 18v lineup while failing to see that 20v Max was going to replace it. On the plus side, we got larger capacity batteries in smaller and more powerful tools, albeit at the expense of those who are/were heavily invested in the older platforms. With a little soldering know-how and the help of the internet, you could replace the cells in your batteries (do so at your own risk), and you may be able to find an adapter to use other batteries with your tools, but otherwise those Skil tools are as useful as B&D Firestorm, Milwaukee V18, PC 18v, and Kobalt 18v/20v Max once the batteries die. While I'm sure there are others, the only brands I can think of that actively support tools originally powered by NiCad are DeWalt (18v batteries are still available, along with the 20v Max adapter), Ridgid 18v, and Ryobi One+ (both allow the use of any battery in any tool). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der_Dachs Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 That stinks. Thats one thing that Ive always loved about Ryobi though: any battery from the last 20 years will work with any tool, no matter if its a blue Ryobi or a lime green one. Batteries are expensive and it stinks when a company decides to phase out an old battery system and youre forced to invest in a whole new system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fm2176 Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 On 12/20/2020 at 6:56 PM, Der_Dachs said: That stinks. Thats one thing that Ive always loved about Ryobi though: any battery from the last 20 years will work with any tool, no matter if its a blue Ryobi or a lime green one. Batteries are expensive and it stinks when a company decides to phase out an old battery system and youre forced to invest in a whole new system. True, I'm optimistic that today's systems are here to stay for the foreseeable future, though. Most major manufacturers haven't switched battery styles over the past ten or so years, despite vast advancements in both battery design and the tools themselves. I have exactly one DeWalt 12v Max Xtreme tool (the 3/8" impact wrench), and my batteries made in 2010 work fine in it As for Ryobi, I have one of my father-in-law's drills he bought in kit form about fifteen years ago that's fully functional with my most modern One+ battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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