Madtec

whats the first thing one would expect from a radio? good sound. if it cant at least do that task good, then what's the point of buying it? i can seperatly buy a makita or milwaukee, radio and charger for around 150, and you're telling me dewalt cant combine two for the same price, and have decent sound? i dont buy it. i'll stick with my milwaukee and makita radios which blow away the dewalt, because in the end, i want a radio with nice sound, not a charger that can play music. Place your Makita or Milwaukee radio very close to a charger when charging a battery and let's see if you get any distrotion or interference. The bottom line is, adding a charge supply feature into a radio will cause distortion and or interference, that is why Dewalt isolated the charge supply as best they could to allow for a better sounding radio. So i understand what your trying to say; if you want a radio, get one that sounds good, but if you want flexability, then it is up the the user perference. I am a bose fan regardless.....

You will have to wait a long time for that unless they lic out the patent, i am sure they renew the patent. On the DC012 there are little to no battery discharge when you leave the battery in an unplugged radio, i have three of them, a DC011, DC012, and DC013. I can go days without using the unplugged radio, and when the battery dies i just throw in another one or plug the radio.

Good question, the charge cycles comes from the cell manufacture and that is the industry standard (i am not an electrical engineer or have any advance knowlege of cell cycle times so dont quote me on this) from what i understand is, charge cycle is a cell that is charged to norminal capacity and then discharged under minimal load to it's low voltage cutoff limits; this would be one charge cycle, when a cell is discharged under heavy load the amount of maximum charge cycle decreases. I will try and get more information on this subject but the quickest way would be to google the topic

I am a little confused about that statement. What do you mean by (2) batteries? Do you mean that they should package 2 batteries with tools? If that is the case, the majority os toosl sold with batteries do in fact come with two, the saws and grinder are exceptions to that of course. As to Li-on vs. NiCad, everyone has their opinion. The reality is that there are definite benefits to both chemistries, and that the deciding factor should be the intended use for the tool. If you are gonig to be working in extreme temperature conditions, or work your tools extremely hard, go with NiCad. If you are working in more "normal" conditions, go Li-on. Honestly they are both great, and I have lots of each so that I can plug the appropriate battery into any of my 18v tools to fit my use for any given day. I was also skeptical about the artificial draw down on the Li-on batteries, as I do not want to lose power when I don't have to. Having used this feature now hwoever, it is actually really nice. It only affectsyour last screw or two, and just slows down the speed a little bit, so you know to chnage the pack. I guess it made a believer out of you

Why anounce it, it will be me anyway

Yep, a few years ago Bosch did a radio that charges and got sued for patent infringement, now they paid for the rights to that patent.

What you have to consider is, DeWalt radio is the only one that charges the battery (patent) so basically it is a radio with a power supply and it can conduct noise and interference thru the reception. If they were to dump the charging feature then it will just be another job site radio. Dont worry, Gen 4 is in dev.

how gradual of a shutdown? why would they do this? i want full power until the battery is dead. i hope dewalt doesnt do the same to the 36 volt batteries. It is just an indication that the battery will need to be charged, so it is not a long drawn out slowdown like NiCd. 36v stays the way it is........

man, that is brutal........do you have any pics? What is the cat# on the drill?

Not for long.............. thanks for the tip

The EUR version DC013 comes with a USB port, i have one at home

Just take it to any authorized service center.......

Sound like it needs to be serviced there is a steel profile in the nailer that will wear out over time and needs to be replaced.

Check the depth settings on the nail gun........

Hmmm.......ok, try charging the battery with your old charger, if the issue presist then it might be something with the thermistor; let me know if it happens with your old charger.......

Question: What charger and battery came in your new kit? If the battery got too hot during charge the charger will cease charging until the battery cools down, after it cools down the charger will continue, so i dont think anything is wrong with the charger, but i will need the info to help you with your issue.

Software glitch.........they are aware of this and have since released an upgrade

Nope, they use Molly cells

Great review

3rd of 4th qtr of this year.........This will be the first wave, so you know their will be a lot more to come

As you may know, their are currently four different chemistries of Li-ion: Cobalt oxide (most of the competitors use this, high capacity but poor charge cycles) Mannganese (i think that is how it is spelt) Phosphate (A123, Sony, and now Samsung) and lithium polymer (used in most cell phone batteries and laptops) and each competitor has their own brand of what goes into the cells. DeWalt engineers (as do many other) have strict guidelines on how Li-ion Cells are processed and perform...... A123 will still be used..... As for the new line........let's just say it will be a game changer and it's going to be 12v; 10.8v in EUR.

The premium packs (XRP) now offer Sony and Samsung cells, the updated circuits also includes fade; this is similar to NiCd where you can determine when the battery voltage is low, on the XRP Li-ion, the circuit cuts the voltage so you have a gradual shut down rather than a hard shut down. The DC9181 launched with Sony cells

They are the same batteries, just a new marketing strategy. In fact this is the third cosmetic change in the last 12 months on this battery. I understand that dewalt is doing away with the Nano campaign. It will now just be cal XRP-Lithium Ion. I did this test with the lithium battery, but this drill (DCD950) will still come packaged with the XRP battery. Actually, they are different, updated circuits, cells and they are shipped in "sleep mode"