Makita_2233
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10 hours ago, dwain said:
Hopefully the new Dewalt 18V/20V with FV battery will too.
The new dewalt grinder will get longer run with the 20v max XR6.0 with double row 20700 cells vs the FV 6.0. My dch293 gets more holes drill with the 20v max XR 6.0 than the FV 6.0. I'm only assuming at this point until I get the new dewalt grinder
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10 hours ago, dwain said:
I'm just saying that there a people who aren't satisfied with a 700W grinder, and upgrade to a 1100W - 1500W 5" grinder. These types (heavy industrial grinding) aren't going to be satisfied with the regular 18V 5".
The rpm on the fuel and makita is painfully slow when cuttung/grinding, good for a flap disc.
Check out the metabo 7" bl 18v, its same size at the 5"
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9 hours ago, kornomaniac said:
And the new Bosh brushless with core battery.
And the new dewalt brushless 18v grinder. Pair it with a FV 9ah or the XR 20v max 6ah battery, it should run good. Plus the metabo brushless grinders and 7ah battery
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10 hours ago, dwain said:
I was excluding the flexvolt and x2 grinders in that post
The makita 5" is fine for all day use with a flap disc. I've had the fuel but get heaps of thermal overload of the batteries when pushed hard
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1 hour ago, kat said:
The convenience, yes. The power? lol.
makita_2233 why don't you make a youtube video and cut something thick with the DGA900 and then with a cheap 230mm grinder and shows which is the most powerful
You didn't answer my question, do you have the x2 9" ?
No I don't use utube, but I have 15 years experience as a boilermaker/welder using a lot of different brand/size grinders. The grinder did not stop once in any of the cutting/grinding in my photos. The motor barely bogs down when leaning on it hard.
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16 hours ago, kat said:
This looks like a huge fail.
Look at the difference compared to the corded model. The motor on that one is waaaay beefier.
700W for a 230mm angle grinder? Seriously?
Have you used the makita x2 9" ?
This is no toy and puts out plenty of power
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45 minutes ago, dwain said:
Not for industrial grinding of course, but for construction work, absolutely.
Not for industrial grinding, said who ?
Im using an array of cordless grinder in my workshop doing heavy metal fab. My go to mainly is the FV grinder and makita x2 9" now it's out and have it
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4 hours ago, D W said:
I think a teal version has been out in AUS for a year(?or so) now. The subcompact stuff here isn't really marketed as a "range", it's all just the same color and blends in with the rest, no special marketing. I'm not sure we get all of them either.
I ordered the subcompact drill driver from the US thinking I couldn't get one locally but I actually could have. I like the black color so it was worth the wait.
Yes you are correct, the sub compact drill/driver and hammer has been out here for well over a year. The impact around march this year. We got everything except the sub compact recip but shouldnt be too far away.
Who did you order the black kit from in the states ?
Aok power equipment will ship to Australia. I pick up a black sub compact kit from Home Depot and carried it back to AUS meself
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On 18/09/2017 at 7:41 PM, D W said:
Tool reviews are really lacking on how the tools perform over the long term (or even more than just a few hours use). Basically they never say anything about it, and I understand it's something that can't really be done.
It's a shame, a tool might come 1st place in performance/features but might be the first one to fail after 12 months. It's declared the winner and we all go out and buy it.
Couldn't agree more. One good example of this I was thinking about the other week. I had 2 in my workshop, both approximately 2 years old, one of them gearbox blew up and the other just stopped working. I've got a Bosch 5" that's around 4 years old and it hasn't missed a beat. Over the passed 15 years I've used a mix of Bosch and metabo grinders it seems Bosch last longer. One thing I've noticed you get a lot of these box opener tool reviewer that get sent sample metabo grinders, use them for a few hours and say they are the best on the market
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5 minutes ago, joemontague said:
What is the difference between the 7 and 9 inch other than the guard of course
Yes, the 9" spins at 6000rpm, max rpm on a 9" disc is 6800rpm. The 7" spins as 7800 rpm
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6 hours ago, ChrisK said:
Any chance you can put two more batteries in that gigantic plastic behemoth?
You certainly can, there is a spot and they slide in. The spacing is bigger for when the new batteries come.
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On 08/09/2017 at 10:12 PM, JMG said:
Not impressed by the soft case tool bag with the kit though.
You should see the case that they come in here in Australia lol, it's huge. I think I'd take the bag
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13 hours ago, D W said:
I'd say 10 days of that delivery time was Sydney to Dubbo
Is Melbourne Tool Sales one of them? I bought a battery from them and it was a 20V Max. They currently have the DCD791 20V Max for $161 AUD delivered (vs $136 AUD from US Ebay) so not always cheaper. Good to know they usually are though.
On Ebay AUS I got the Dewalt brushless multitool, with tstak, foam liner, accessories (including depth guide) for only $224 AUD delivered from the UK. They were a UK seller that listed on Ebay AUS, but they don't sell Dewalt very often.
That's pretty good to dubbo.
Yes mts is one, think they offer 1 year warranty on their tools and 3 months on batteries.
National power tools is another, they offer 1 year on batteries.
That can be taken into consideration when buying eBay Australia 20v max tools vs eBay US 20v ma tools, that these Aussie sellers offer a small warranty
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5 hours ago, D W said:
Ebay (US) is great and quite a few sellers ship to AUS. Be careful though, some charge crazy amounts for shipping, so avoid them.
Only yesterday I nearly ordered a Dewalt DCD791 for $136 AUD delivered. So far it seems much cheaper for Dewalt skins than here AUS. The compact brushless reciprocating saw is also available for about $200 AUD delivered ($300 here in AUS).
I recently bought a Black Subcompact Makita drill and 2.0ah batteries with fuel gauges from US Ebay (both not available in AUS, only a teal subcompact and 1.5ah with no fuel gauge). It only took about 2 weeks for delivery!
I highly recommend US Ebay.
You can also use some of those postal proxy/forwarding services, where you can buy from any US shop and ship to a specified US postal address, and the service will forward it to you in AUS. A mate of mine does this.
There is a few Aussie sellers on eBay importing 20v max stuff with a warranty. Some stuff is actually cheaper than buying it in the US, I know for a fact, I bought a few 20v max tools while I was in the US, saw these Aussie sellers on eBay months later with it cheaper.
2 weeks that's ages haha, I got a dch293 in 2 days from the US to Sydney
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16 hours ago, zinzander said:
Literally the only difference
literally the only difference is the sticker. The 54v battery can read up to 60v (max) on a voltmeter when fully charged and not under load. In reality it is just a 54v battery with some marketing b.s. In New Zealand and many other countries I.e. the UK, Australia etc there are laws which prevent companies making statements with the intention of misleading or which are likely to mislead, it is under the Fair Trading Act. Although saying 60v (max) 20v (max) is truthful by the exact wording, it is a statement that is made to try to manipulate the labeling to differentiate the product from competitors and create a false impression of being more powerful tool, for example a 20v max being more powerful than an 18v tool when in fact it is the same. Outside the state's it is quite possibly illegal (the specific case hasnt been tested in court) to label their tools 60v max as it is an attempt to create a false impression to the consumer. Anyway mix and match to your hearts content they are exactly the same tools with a different sticker. I
If that was the case why in Australia is makita's 10.8v slide called 12v max ? M12, it's also 10.8v. It's far from misleading if you understand the word max and what it means.
Dewalt in North America couldn't swallow their pride, they said they would never change the battery style back in the old xpr pod style days. They had to come up with a new name hence the 20v max branding. FV just followed on with the same MAX branding
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52 minutes ago, dwain said:
huh?
Lol damm
* deceptive
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1 hour ago, dwain said:
Many people don't understand that 20V MAX is actually the same as 18V nominal. For those that do, they realise it's probably the same stuff.
But Watt Hours is a measure of total juice / gas tank / volume. There's no MAX volume and nominal volume, the amount of Wh in the battery is found by multiplying nominal voltage by the Ah.
It's deceptive because 20V Max x 5Ah = 100 Wh is bullshit. It actually has 18V x 5Ah = 90Wh.
It's not descriptive if you multiple a few numbers. Yes agree they should put the actual watts hours regardless of the max branding. Dewalt in North America branded slide 18v as 20v max cause they couldn't swollew their pride. They said they would never change battery style from the old 18v xrp pod style, So they needed to come up with a new name. Yes pretty dumb idea as the rest of the world didn't have problems changing. Unknown why they did the same with flexvolt, calling it 60v max, probably cause it sounds better haha
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On 23/08/2017 at 10:46 AM, dwain said:
Sometimes batteries even claim their total size (Watt hours) by multiplying the Ah and the MAX Voltage!!!! That is even worse.
Really ? Anyone with half brain can understand the meaning of MAX and work out the correct watt hours. Explain why it is bullshit marketing?
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7 hours ago, Jronman said:
either way a subcompact version is confirmed to be coming out according to the video. The pic is from a guy in Canada. I would guess Makita has same stuff in Canada as they do in the states.
The barrel grip isn't out in the states. No idea why
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On 07/04/2017 at 1:32 PM, Hugh Jass said:
DCH-333 will be the 60v lipstick 293 for Flexvolt. Only difference is they gave the metal housing a rubber boot for the flex.
I checked the 54v rotary today, definitely no 2mm rubber boot over the housing. It's just a different colour to the 20v max
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5 hours ago, Jronman said:
in theory if the load was high enough the flexvolt should have more power and be more power efficient than the 20v max.
Yes I agree with you. Hence 54v, higher voltage is more efficient
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7 hours ago, Hugh Jass said:
So 2mm and some rubber constitute an entirely different tool to you? Strip the casing and revert it back to 20v and it's the same tool. The 2mm likely comes from the larger amperage packs, throw a flexvolt on the 20v and it likely would have identical power to it's 60v counterpart.
I'll have both soon and will be testing them against each other. I'll check one today but I'm sure it isn't rubber. It's also has the 2 flexvolt tabs, you would have to snap them off. So Can you can say for sure that the 20v max would likely have identical power to the 60v max if a FV packed was used ?
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On 07/04/2017 at 10:46 AM, Hugh Jass said:
The hammerdrill is the same, there's a SDS coming out that is identical between both platforms with the same stats, I think the string trimmer might be a copy as well as the recip but not positive about that one. If it's not that's embarrassing.
They are identical in look, but the specs slightly different. Joules, rpm, bpm are the same, but the 20v max is rated at max Dia 28mm and the 54v is max Dia 30mm. I'm 99%sure it doesn't have a rubber overmould as you say, it's just coated in a black/dark grey colour last time I checked on in store. I'll check again next time
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On 07/04/2017 at 1:40 PM, Bremon said:
That's ridiculous...so in exchange for your boot do you also lose 20v Max compatibility? Or is it the 996 situation with different battery style kits?
I have a 20v max dch293 over here in Australia, there is also another 54v rotary in Europe dch323, less impact joules, bpm and rpm.
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Dewalt were talking about the end of the year maybe but I have my doubts. They just released flexvolt kits with 18v tools and FV batteries. U.K. Doesn't have the 18v 6.0 and we get what they get. I bought some in America, also a eBay seller in Melbourne importing and selling them here.