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Thanks for the input guys, I'm going to have to take a closer look at some of the 12v tools, particularly the M12 jigsaw. I do have a bunch of other jigsaws (can't have to many tools can you?), but a compact one sounds interesting. If I buy into the system I may look into the camera as well. I think I'll stick with my Dremel branded rotary tool, unless I get a chance to compare it side by side against the Milwaukee, and the Milwaukee is a noticeable improvement. Anyone comment on the M12 radio? A small light radio could fit into my tool set. Both my LXT and early Rockford Fosgate Milwaukee radios are sometimes more than I want to lug around.

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There are a lot of issues at play, One of the biggest foes of the coal industry is the oil industry. The same oil industry that is in bed with our government, The same oil industry that we are at war in the middle east for, The same oil Industry that is trying to suppress every alternative energy that they aren't in bed with. Did you know Germany just hit a milestone of 50% of there country powered by solar http://www.iol.co.za...ecord-1.1305893 Why are we not at the forefront of alternative energy? Swapping out our infrastructure for another source of energy would put untold millions to work. watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdE1uSWchTc

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Most of the time I do prefer to use corded tools. I do however have some reservations. When I have to run multiple extension cords I worry about voltage drop shortening the life of tools and about the legality of more than one cord. I have been lead to believe that running off a generator is another life shortening use of power tools, especially with generators that automatically throttle down when no load is present. Not to mention having to listen to the noise of an infernal combustion engine all day, takes all the enjoyment out of working in the woods or other remote site. If you don't mind me asking, what is it that you do with your compact impact driver? Am I missing a possible use for mine?

I will be taking a closer look at that jigsaw, I am wondering what kind of runtime your getting out of it. Does it have enough runtime to do a double sink cutout? How does it hold up cutting thicker materials, like 2x ? Dremel does make a cordless rotary tool the 8200-2/28 . I'll be looking for a comparison test. I'm wondering if one could be better than another. I have some investment in Dremel already. Are the accessories (outside of the bits) compatible? Fein makes a cordless multi-tool as well the MSX 315, pricey though. I really don't have that much use for a multi-tool in the field, I use them mostly as detail sanders in the shop, and since I've already invested in Makitas LXT, I will probably be considering their LXMT02Z first, I'm glad they came out with it in 18v, so there is some choice in voltage there.

Wow, resurrecting all the old threads. OP is from August 2010. Video long gone... Could be spam. Animal18 has only one post and there is an identical post over on Garage Journal by the same author, again his only post What I may like most about this next generation of tool motors is that the caseless motors may be able to buy parts for the motors rather than having to replace the motor as an complete assembly. Best brushless video I've seen is Festool Cordless Drill Myth

They are a Japanese brand, they make a lot of tools for the motorcycle and automotive industry. I really like their T handled screwdrivers. Most of the people who work on Japanese motorcycles use them. With a little practice they are just as fast as air tools. If I were to rate the quality of their tools on a scale of one to ten, with ten being best, I would give them a good solid 7, only because the finish is not up to that of the likes of Snap-on, they are good working tools though. Like they say on the streets, chrome won't get you home.

Say you had invested in another battery platform, say the M18 and you had the matching M18 jigsaw, would it be worth it to you to invest in the M12 jigsaw then? If you already had a Fein Multi-tool, Crain jamb saw, and numerous Dremel tools? would it still be worth it for you to invest in 12v tools? Are they that much more convenient and would they be able to earn their keep versus using other possibly corded tools? I could almost see investing in the camera system, I have used my phones camera to check out some blind spots and the FLIR systems do seem to be neat, but I have to wonder if here in Florida it would ever be able to pay for itself. Not many of the people I do work for are very interested in insulation. Even though I am a tool junkie, there does come a point when I have to question the value of future tool purchases. I want to like 12v tools, in theory smaller lighter tools should be wonderful, but I'm left disenchanted with my limited exposure to them, only owning the PS40 and not being impressed with it and with finding some of my 18v tools disappointing in terms of power and runtime...

I have been wondering what everyone IS finding theirs useful for? Like I said, I did not find my Bosch PS 40 particularly good for anything, It is a lot slower than my 18v tools, although every once in a while I do find something to use it on, cabinets or other small stuff. I don't believe that I can justify the the cost I paid for it, with how little I use it. It is my opinion that a cordless tool should be sufficient for a small job, for a saw that would be cutting sheathing for a ridge vent, putting in a small dormer, build an entrance canopy, build an outhouse or small shed, etc. I often find myself working where the only power I have to work with is the power I bring with me, and who wants to listen to a generator running all day It is not that it struggles, it is that I have to constantly change/charge batteries, on a busy day 4-6 or more times with my Makita LXT or Milwaukee and this is even with newer batteries. I was definitely charging batteries hot when I was using my drill to drive deck screws. So much so that I've gone out and bought an extra impact driver so I don't have to abuse my batteries.

Are any of you really happy with 12 volt tools? I find most of my 18 volt tools barely adequate, for home repair. Yes, I guess the impact driver is sufficient, I bought a Bosch PS40, I thought I would use it more often for some of the smaller jobs I run across, but that has not been the case. It seems so much slower than my 18v LXT. I can just live with 18v drills, They work well as a drivers. Most of my needs are for 3/8" and 1/2" drill bits, 3/4" and 1" spade/self feed bits and 2 1/8" and 2 3/8" hole saws. I just can't see 12v being sufficient. 18v circular saws, your kidding right? I can only cut maybe 15 2x4s or fewer 2x6s, (forget ripping a 2x) or 5-6 cuts in plywood. 18v Reciprocating saw, maybe once in a while, not for roughing out more than one opening per charge. I can't imagine a 12v reciprocating saw being all that useful. Any how my old 9.6v Makita still works, as I haven't used it enough to wear it out yet... Where are the big tools? I can actually get a little work done with my Hiti 36v and Milwakee 28v. I really wish more manufacturers would concentrate on bigger more useful tools. I'm guessing it is the home owners/DIYers who are driving the market. Am I missing something? What is the attraction with 12v and what are you finding it actually useful for?

Just like a gun, always assume it's loaded.

Every place I've looked has the Milwaukee for sale. Local HD has them for $50. My favorite sander is the Porter Cable 330 Speed Bloc. Built like a tank. I do have one of their more recent models (342R) for overhead work, the paper change is dead simple on this one, although it is a little weak for holding multiple sheets well. Re: Mirca Ceros = $495 @ http://www.woodcraft.com/ the only place I've seen them for sale. Re:UK 110v @ 50 Hz vs US 110v @ 60 Hz This would mean that your tool would run slower than designed and I would think, burn out quicker. I would think if a charger would work at all the 50 Hz wouldn't make much diference in a solid state device, especially since there is some electrickery going on to convert it to the batteries DC.

Most drivers without torque settings are limited by the the tools own maximum output. How useful this would be would depend on whether the tool reached its maximum torque before or after the fastener is driven all the way. Hole Hawgs have no clutch.... A little caution goes a long way.

Surprising bargain bits, Black & Deckers from Wally world. Every bit as good as Dewalts. Bosch bits are really hard, they break before they wear out. My favs are from Phillips Fasteners. I usually pick up the 5 pack of long number 2s (3-80202) for my impact drivers. I really like their Phillips II screws.

Google is your friend. If you have the cd100, they say you need the 140295003 12V NiCd Battery Charger. http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=Ryobi+140295003&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=1776025558973955402 shouldn't cost you more than $20 with shipping. Wonder if this old post is worth the reply

Vintage Machinery AKA Old Wood Working Machines is another good site. http://vintagemachinery.org

I'll not argue that the EPA is influenced politically. Like any governmental agency, they are influenced by those seeking to be reelected, who are increasing being bought out by large corporate overlords. But I will argue that some of their policies are successful. Do you worry about mercury poisoning? Where does the majority of mercury in our living environment come from and why is it no longer as big a problem as it was? IF you have ever had to deal with any toxic environmental conditions, like having you or your family sickened by pollution, your attitude about the EPA may change. They are the agency that is responsible for cleaning up all the messes that past generations didn't care to bother about. Just look at all the Superfund sites they are working on. @ http://www.epa.gov/superfund/sites/index.htm Love Canal- Look it up. If your interested in the latest corporate propaganda, it is that renewable energy investment kills jobs, so the corporate media won't support politicians who support anything but business as usual. Re: Just tired of no one giving a shit anymore. It is my opinion that the government has shifted support from the people to the corporations. This is the only way they can get the money needed to stand a chance of winning an election. It will not change until we have our own "Arab Spring". People are starting to notice, look at the Occupy Wall Street movement. We may be witnessing a "Maple Spring" in Canada, with the protests there getting 15% of Montreal's population involved. Your NOT going to hear much about it unless you look for it outside of corporate controlled media. After all we do have the best propaganda machine in the whole world, so good you hardly even notice it, right here in the good old USA. We are even going to let the government get involved with it now. http://www.buzzfeed.com/mhastings/congressmen-seek-to-lift-propaganda-ban

If I was looking for a SET and it was just for occasional use, like behind the seat of my truck, I would either get the Crescent CTK170CMP set or the Stanley 91-988. If I was looking for a set to use daily in the shop and was not to concerned about spending money, the Snap-On 9100GSM would be my first choice. If I was looking for a home maintenance type set I would consider the Mobile Shop (http://www.mobile-shop.com/)If I was just looking for the basics, a component of that set, the MS-CTB would do. I personally assembled a set into a Veto Pro Pac, which I do change on occasion for certain jobs needs. As for quality tools that I use, that haven't been mentioned already, there is Armstrong, Bahco, Facom, KD tool, Kowa Seiki, Midwest Tool and Cutlery, Olfa, PB Swiss, SK tools, Tajima, Wiha, and Wera. Re: Wayne Burgess - on plumbing tools Rigid is a brand of plumbing tools I trust, I have couple of my grandfathers Rigid pipe wrenches that are still going strong(as well as his even older Stillsons).

Very interesting. should be submitted to Wikipedia as well, so it will live on. If you all like old wrenches you should know about Alloy Artifacts http://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/index.html One of those websites that can easily kill an afternoon or evening... There are a bunch of old tool websites if your interested.

If your doing big holes and NEED to go cordless, get a chuck attachment for your impact driver. You will be amazed at what this set up will do. Hearing protection recommended. Old Carpenters never die, they just whittle away.

I'm very glad we aren't like China and have agencies looking out for our environmental health. China has a SERIOUS problem with pollution. We would have riots in the streets if we had half the problems China has, With about 2 in ten kids being born in China today being born with birth defects due to pollution. We have one or two cities here with minor smog problems, China has vast areas with MAJOR smog problems. You like having clean air to breath and clean water to drink? Thank the organizations that protect our environment. Here is an old Indian quote that I find appropriate Only when the last tree has been cut down; Only when the last river has been poisoned; Only when the last fish has been caught; Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. Our weapons production is one of the few things we still do well in the U.S. that and medical equipment plus computer chips. If we haven't wiped humanity off the face of the planet we will be one of the few countries to be standing in the end. We still have one of the best bunch of people in high tech, and the highest skill set. it's just that there is such a little demand for what they produce, that not many people need it or come across it in their daily lives. It is my belief that what we need is another revolution, one where the average Joe stands up for himself to get what he deserves. One where we end up working for the common good rather than standing in our own pride, divided and conquered. We already produce enough food to feed everyone in the world, the problem is that a lot of people can't afford to eat. Once we solve this problem, we will be well on our way to a better world.

Wood chippers are very loud. Come up with a way to cut down on the noise and the world would thank you. If ever there was a tool that could use flesh sensing technology like the sawstop table saw uses, the wood chipper would be one. I always wish to be able to get multiple use from machines, and would love to be able to easily be able to tap into the chippers hydraulic system to power other hydraulic tools particularly power pruners (like a chainsaw on the end of a stick), this would have made my life much easier when I was trimming trees, being able to NOT have to run gas powered saws. Light towers: Again getting multiple uses from these would be nice. most have a little extra generating capacity, but this is usually just enough to make it almost useful. Up the output a bit so they can be used for more than just lighting the tower. I do realize this would not really be beneficial to those running/buying fleets of these lights for larger scale projects, unless they wanted to single a few out for additional uses. Another of my issues with these is having to crank down the tower to readjust the lights. A remote control would ease this immensely. I could picture a little control pad on a cord with four joy sticks on it, with maybe a button or two for some preset configurations. Speaking of cranking towers up, I dream of a unit that I could walk up to and press a button and have it deploy its stabilizers, self level then raise its own mast, like some of the man lifts do these days. Accessory extended run fuel tanks for generators usually seem to be a cobbled together last minute thought of way to make a couple extra bucks. Better integration would seem to me to be a wise decision. I would love to see something along the lines of an additional fuel tap where a fuel tank like the ones used for outboard motors could be plugged in to extend run time. As for circular saws, how about a cord that can't be cut through. I would love to have a premium circular saw. One like Black & Deckers original Sawcat, that was built with carbon fiber and titanium components, that was engineered with long life and ease of maintenance as priorities. PTO drive shafts: Don't know why you singled out 540 RPM, since 1000 RPM are likely to have the same issues. I dislike the struggle to line up the drive splines, and would love to just shove them together and have them automatically align. would be really nice if this was somehow a sealed unit as well, seems I'm always getting covered in grease whenever I'm dealing with them. Jam free locking mechanism would be nice as well, again sealing the unit would fix most of the jamming issues I've dealt with. I have made my living with tools one way or another for most of my life, so my comments are from a professionals perspective.

Well, with a big enough battery, you could use either a water jet, or a laser. Not going to be cheap though.... Die cutting can also be done without much noise, provided the material your cutting is not particularly thick.