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Bremon

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  1. Yes, I'm aware of that, reps have been saying since FlexVolt launched that it was "in development" and many of the "influencers" have parroted it. You can believe what you want. I'm giving you the most recent info I've heard and that is that it's been abandoned. My purchases going forward will plan around it not being feasible and amortize the utility of the big ticket items that would benefit from it accordingly. You are, of course, free to continue to believe and hope it comes as well, my fingers are still crossed, but I'll plan my purchases accordingly ?. By from what I can piece together it was meant to be a 2017 thing and who knows, maybe they can figure it out in the future and it will be a 2018 or 2019 thing. I think it would be a hit regardless of when it launches. Hell, the more tools that can use it the more advantageous it is. 

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  2. If 6 lbs heavier means I can get a real saw instead of the Fuel 10" I'll take the weight everytime. Table saw sales probably lag because people expect the 10" to come in at the 8.25" weight. Home Depot isn't where a lot of contractors I know buy much of anything. Tools like that are big dollar though, a new circ, recip, etc., those are all in the impulse buy price range. 

     

    I would definitely buy a 10" 60v non-slider to compliment my 12" slider though. 

     

    @Framer joe I heard rumblings of a 60v adapter for quite a while. This past week I was told it's off the table. Hopefully you're right and it happens. 

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  3. The point of a well rounded line isn't so you can buy multiple sizes of every style of tool, like your saw example (though you're on a forum of people who wouldn't think less of you for it), the point is  everyone can have a tool closest to exactly what they need for their particular workflow. It also helps you stay as closely as possible to the single battery platform ideal ecosystem manufacturers try to sell us on. I'd rather have a 5-3/8 little trim saw and a big 7-1/4 than a 6.5/7.25 combo for instance.

     

    12v represents lightweight and compact, as you said, but it should also represent options, and choices for runtime like the 18v class does. Duplication of tools already available in 20v Max is what gives us the lightweight and compact option in the first place. I don't see the issue when every manufacturer offers 6+ drills in the 18v line as well as multiple versions of other tools that getting a compact lightweight 12v version should be an issue. 

     

    M12 represents a line about as old as 12v Max that actually gets attention and R&D money. M12 marketshare is what SBD could have if they stopped pretending to give a crap and started actually giving a crap. CXT, regardless of why Makita felt they had to start over, represents a line that is getting serious R&D and marketing. 12v Max represents a token half-assed effort and some nice lasers. Despite my preference for slide packs I can also see that stem packs help fulfill a 12v tools

    goal of compact form factor. 

     

    As for compatibility, you're describing the charging experience of every person who has M18 and M12 tools: one charger. Not particularly novel. What would be novel is if the lasers in the OP had the same flexibility with batteries that the radios you mention do. Then @Hugh Jass and I would be happy, you wouldn't be reading my whining, and we could all believe Dewalt aren't liars when they say crap like they're "fully committed" to 12v Max. 

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  4. Makita CXT is what, 18 months old? The line is already more impressive than 12v Max, which is a senior citizen by comparison at almost 7 years.

     

    M12 on the other hand, to say has "some tools the others don't" is hilarious. It's diverse enough to replace the need for 18v tools at all for some people. 2 ratchets, palm nailer, circular saw, multiple lights (lantern, flood, swivel head, etc.), right angle impact, multiple imaging devices from inspection cameras to thermal imagers. Not to mention a ton of specialty tools. The only thing 12v Max has over M12 is a nicer subscanner and more diverse lasers. 

     

    M12 is the industry star, Makita is the up-and-comer, Bosch is sort of a has-been, while Dewalt is the never-was. But at least they're putting out these lasers ?

     

    As for how fast tool production tools along, have you seen Milwaukee's Rapid prototype design? They can 3D print and build a working prototype ridiculously fast and to think that's limited to them is ridiculous. That's without comparing a saw (a motor, housing, shoe, and miscellaneous parts) to a plane. Dewalt's not-a-worm may have been in works for ages but I'm sure things like the rafter hook it's sure to have weren't omitted for cost cutting like on the sidewinder. 

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  5. All good @Grumpy MSG, my problem with 12v Max is I want them to give it the CXT treatment; devote enough time and money to it to kickstart it into a competitor for M12 or Bosch, not a token line to say they make compacts. I think we are better served by vocalizing improvements we would like to see. If there wasn't a notable pushback on the FlexVolt for having no blade left option or hook would we be seeing leaks of the yellow Makita rear handle copycat? I'm not sure we would. Obviously, I feel Dewalt doesn't offer a compelling enough product in this segment to get my money. I'm not alone. Maybe down the road they'll adapt if for 20v like they have with some other bits and bobs. More choices means more happy customers. 

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  6. 58 minutes ago, Grumpy MSG said:

    To go along with all the WHINE!

     

    Here is the easy solution: If you don't like it, don't buy it. DeWALT's 12V MAX line is so bad, run off and buy Milwaukee's tool. Somebody mentioned 50 hours of run time, that is 5 ten hour days and the battery lasted all week. So carry the battery in the unit, keep the spare in box, change it when needed. go home at the  end of the day and slap the depleted battery in the slow charger you have there that charges 12s and 20s (chances are, right now if you own 20V MAX tools you already own a charger that works with the 12V MAX batteries). The next day you grab the charged battery throw it in the box and you will have it in a few weeks when you need to change it again. If you can't handle those simple steps, you are probably in the wrong business.

    What does the MSG stand for? The rest of your username is self-explanatory ?. Green lasers are battery pigs. The "FastCharger" doesn't charge 12v Max. A laser that runs off their most common platform (rather than one that barely exists) and doesn't cost $1600 CAD shouldn't be too much to ask for. And by "ask" I mean quietly hope and wish and not vocalize because we ought not to verbally berate Lord Stanley Blackdecker or he might withhold future tools from us and raise our tithes and taxes to punish us filthy peasants while sharing neither his cheese nor his wine and we will be left only with whine as far as the eye can see and not a drop to drink ?.

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