So I have an M12 heated hoodie and I gotta say that it is, wellll..... garbage. The idea of compact heat doesn't work because you have to have an overcoat on for the heat to make a difference. It's uncomfortable as a hooker in church. The battery placement is ridiculous. Every time you sit down in a loader or a truck or a tractor it gets jammed into your back. Really why can't it be somewhere like in the front pocket. There are a lot more comfortable ways to be warmer for 100+ $. I would rather wear 20 $5 Walmart hoodies than one of these with the battery in it. I don't even bother with putting the battery in because without a battery its actually a pretty nice hoodie. I gotta say Milwaukee really messed this one up but I really shouldn't complain because it was a gift and this makes me a total a-hole but I would not recommend the hoodie. I can't speak for the jackets. Anybody had any better luck with the hoodie?