dwain Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Now be honest, who thought the M12 FUEL was gonna be the match of the M18 hackzall? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Me lol. Everything I've read is that the M18 hackzall sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Edit still not working for me. Grr. I should clarify what I mean by "sucks". Clearly, it's a capable tool. I just don't like the size and weight. What I want, is the M12 with an M18 slide pack and grip. I have a full size recip for the heavy tasks. These tools, imo, are aimed at plumbers and electricians cutting tubing and conduit etc. Lighter the better. I'm very happy with my M12 Fuel and have used it extensively for a variety of tasks. Cutting down dimensional lumber is not something I would use these tools for aside from being in a pinch. Also, full size blades are a weakness of these tools because they don't have adjustable shore, so can't make use of the full blade length easily. Thanks for the great video Dwain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas2000 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Very good video. Thanks for sharing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMack37 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 I've cut a lot of things with the M12 Fuel Hackzall; I cannot bog it down, I've cut 4" thick live tree branches and a 3.5" to 4" steel pipe(for a basketball hoop) with it. Power doesn't seem to be the issue compared to a Sawzall, just speed...and that's insane. It also looks ridiculous with a full sized reciprocating saw blade and you'll get second looks putting one on it...then third and fourth looks after you cut right through. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Yeah, it has gobs of power, it's the short stroke length that costs it time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiltiWpg Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Too bad you couldn't get the Makita in there!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwain Posted September 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Do Makita have a recip of this shape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmcmillan Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 3 hours ago, dwain said: Do Makita have a recip of this shape? http://cdn.makita.com/apps/cms/img/xrj/11640fb2-099e-46e3-9ac7-90c5c2066cf4_xrj01z_p_500px.png?width=500&trim.threshold=80&trim.percentpadding=1 It's not the same shape but it has a similar stroke length and one handed design. Pretty much a direct competitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnarlyCarl Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Do Makita have a recip of this shape?Don't you have this in Australia? Or do you mean one that is the shape of hackzall....? Because this is their competing model..Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnarlyCarl Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Edit still not working for me. Grr. I should clarify what I mean by "sucks". Clearly, it's a capable tool. I just don't like the size and weight. What I want, is the M12 with an M18 slide pack and grip. I have a full size recip for the heavy tasks. These tools, imo, are aimed at plumbers and electricians cutting tubing and conduit etc. Lighter the better. I'm very happy with my M12 Fuel and have used it extensively for a variety of tasks. Cutting down dimensional lumber is not something I would use these tools for aside from being in a pinch. Also, full size blades are a weakness of these tools because they don't have adjustable shore, so can't make use of the full blade length easily. Thanks for the great video Dwain!Yes, I use the m18 for cutting pipe over 2" and it's awesome for that since I can hold the pipe in one hand and the saw in the other.... Bit more awkward using the sawzall for thatSent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwain Posted September 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 yeah we have that model in Australia, though I've never held one. This test was about the hackzalls, 18v really. I included the M12 FUEL because its brushless and people thought it might be competitive. Including the regular 12v models from Makita, Bosch or Milwaukee would not have been a fair fight at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 True. I've yet to hear a positive sentiments about the brushed M12 Hackzall. "It's small" is about the most positive thing I've read about it lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMack37 Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 2 hours ago, Bremon said: True. I've yet to hear a positive sentiments about the brushed M12 Hackzall. "It's small" is about the most positive thing I've read about it lol. It's not a bad tool at all. It does have it's limitations, you can bog it down but it will cut through a lot of materials. I'm sure you could get by if you were using it for tree trimming and plumbing. It's biggest fault is that it has poor battery life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrich1 Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 10 hours ago, dwain said: yeah we have that model in Australia, though I've never held one. This test was about the hackzalls, 18v really. I included the M12 FUEL because its brushless and people thought it might be competitive. Including the regular 12v models from Makita, Bosch or Milwaukee would not have been a fair fight at all. Makita's has a compact 18v https://www.makitatools.com/products/details/XRJ01Z. Althought I dont believe it would compete with the other 18v's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiltiWpg Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 Makita's has a compact 18v https://www.makitatools.com/products/details/XRJ01Z. Althought I dont believe it would compete with the other 18v's. This was the one I was referring to. The 18v doesn't seem any worse especially considering its $99.The dual trigger 1 hand / 2 hand operations are pretty sweet.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrich1 Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 This was the one I was referring to. The 18v doesn't seem any worse especially considering its $99.The dual trigger 1 hand / 2 hand operations are pretty sweet.Sent from my iPad using TapatalkI figured. I didn't want there to be any confusion with the 12v recip saw being posted later in the thread since they look identical. I have it and it is nice. One handed operation is great. having a dual trigger is ice for different t scenariosSent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnarlyCarl Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 True. I've yet to hear a positive sentiments about the brushed M12 Hackzall. "It's small" is about the most positive thing I've read about it lol. It fits nicely in my Milwaukee 13" box and use it for cutting tubular ptrap pipe, which I do a lot of, and some threaded rod, small things like that.... The fuel version was much more bulky and wouldn't fit in my box near as wellSent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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