kornomaniac

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I would be Abit bummed that the flexvolt saw only have the 2.0 batteries. In heavy use they have a serious lack of runtime compared to the flxvolt 3.0 amps ( More then the 1 amp difference would suggest. The flexvolt 3ah battery uses bigger and better cells that provide alot more runtime under heavy use )

Those small grooves ( as far as I know ) where never meant to be held in the hex bit holder. I think Bosch marketing with their pictures got Abit out of hand :/

That's indeed rather misleading id say I don't think 25mm bits exist that have the bigger indent right ?

That's the way it should work. Can't put 25mm bits straight into an impact/hex driver. Use 50mm bits ( which have the larger indent at the back )

18g nailer exists. It's just a POS for most people

Well there's a YouTube video of a guy putting a steady amp draw on the cells of different batteries. Tries different amp draws. And the conclusion of that video was indeed that the 20700 cells in the metabo LIHD and flexvolt 3 amp battery are indeed more efficient under heavy loads. They build up less internal resistance then the 18650 cells uses by Makita/Bosch. That's what I was basing my post on. So larger cells don't have to be more efficient but they are in the case of flexvolt

Well for the sake of correctness: there is an efficiency plus from having the power available in higher voltages ( 54 vs 36 vs 18). And the DeWalt 3.0 amp flexvolt uses 20700 cells which deliver their power more efficiently then 18650 cells ( only under heavy loads ). On the other hand an X2 setup by Makita has a 33% higher capacity of available energy. And a X2 setup puts less strain on the cells ( 20 cells vs 15 in flexvolt ). Noone here is an engineer but it seems to even out

Makita and Bosch I know off yes

Yes, that's what the word ' current ' in my post meant of course

Have that on a above average number of Bosch brushless tools really.

They have a few extremely well thought out tools that just work better then other options. Dust extraction is also quite top notch if that is important to you. On the other side they also have a bunch of overpriced tools which were special 8 years ago but have since been surpassed by other tools from other brands

Thats a lovely combo. I was positively surprised with the cordless Festool Sanders tho

@Framer joeeWalt has a few great tools in the flexvolt lineup like the grinder or the saws but other flexvolt tools ( recip, plunge saw, the current SDS Max ) are nothing special and get beaten by other tools ( like Makita 36v ) easily.

Hitachi nailers look ace tho

If only they'd bring out some quality battery nail guns

4 Batts in total with 1 double charger would easily keep you running all day then right ? 1 set on the charger, 1 set on the tool. I'm getting the dhr400 second week of March.

Adding an m class filter doesn't make it a legal m class vacuum. HSE would still not let you use it. The DeWalt power bank thing is not coming to EU for legal reasons.

Never had to order them for a customer before sorry !

Ow oops I totally knew that. Brain fart Thank jronman ! Indeed the new 20v Max/6ah is the better idea !

In a brushed motor absolutely totally correct. Modern brushless motors not so much

There is no larger w/h potential. Thats an illusion. The only limit is the actual size you wanna make your battery. A flexvolt 54v/2 amp battery is thesame size as a Makita 18v/6 amp or a Milwaukee 18v/6 amp. All three of these batteries have 10 cells, thesame capacity of 108 watt hours and thesame psysical size. Manufacturers can as easily make a 54v/10ah battery as they could make a 18v/30ah battery. Both those batteries would need 50 lithium cells of 3 amp each , both could have exactly thesame psysical dimensions and both batteries would have 540 Wh of energy available. Now I agree we'll see the larger power demanding tools on higher voltage platforms. But that not out of technological limitations more because people believe that a 54 volt tool would be vastly superior to an 18v tool ( altho real life proof and my explanation above shows otherwise )

Have to say I do sell quite alot of Jigsaws. Think about thesame number as I sell circular saws

Well you're thinking the wrong way there. Voltage doesn't matter all that much for modern brushless tools. There's a bigger marketing advantage then a power advantage in going 54v ( like flexvolt ) or 58v ( upcoming Makita OPE) . Modern brushless tools hardly give a fuck about what voltage they are getting. The total capacity/total energie your batteries have in more important and a better way to compare modern batteries. Makita 18+18v ( gonna take 6 amp batteries as an example ) have a total capacity in watt hours of ( 36v x 6amp ) 216 Watt Hours. DeWalt flexvolt is 54v * 3 amp ( remember it's 54v nominal and not that 60v marketing ) which gives us 162 Watt Hours. Milwaukee uses a 18v 9 amp battery which also gives us 162 Watt hours. Unfortunately it's not as simple as I have said above because there's a few extra things to consider: higher voltages ( like flexvolt ) give you some percent efficiency advantage. Bigger lithium cells ( like in the flexvolt 54v-3ah ) can cope with higher loads alot better. And the Makita setup has 20 lithium cells that share the load where the Milwaukee or flexvolt setup have to share a load on 15 lithium cells thus improving efficiency under load. TL;DR As it currently stands I believe Makita and Flexvolt to be able to provide thesame performance in runtime. Makita from a higher capacity and more cells. DeWalt from higher voltage and bigger cells. Milwaukee's Max output is a tad behind.

Only available info is a 58v battery. Starting with a trimmer/brush cutter and a dual battery backpack blower. More is not known yet of upcoming Makita OPE platform