Bremon
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I'm more and more excited for the FlexVolt track saw as I read more forums on what you can do with them. Can't wait.
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They do. They burn through 9.0s fast too though. FlexVolt 9.0 > M18 9.0 runtime but the 6.0 FlexVolt isn't anything special for runtime. Similar to the m18 5.0 on a grinder.
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Interesting; didn't realize that @KnarlyCarl, I thought the alligators only advantage was lower price.
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Fuel grinder with 5.0...works fine yeah. Mitre saw works but is less than ideal and it's a baby blade instead of full size. You can burn 9.0 in a pile of red tools though with no problems.
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So, realistically, for missing brushless tools you're talking about a grinder and compact impact wrench? Brushless high torque: available. Impact drivers: available. Drills: available. Recip: coming soon. The backwards compatibility of FlexVolt packs means those batteries work on everything, and with the new 9.0 FlexVolt batteries you get more than twice the runtime of a 5.0.
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Very true @Jronman and as time passes and the companies stay in the same systems, as mentioned, those differences will disappear.
Except in the 12v lines lol. Dewalt is practically a decade behind where that's concerned.
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Dewalt's XR 6.0 for 20v Max is the same concept. 2 parallel sets of 5 20700 cells. The performance is greater than the 2.0/6.0 FlexVolt of 3 parralel sets of 5 18650 cells.
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Unless you want to start doubling up batteries, etc. there's going to come a point where Milwaukee can't keep up to Makita and FlexVolt with power. It's great that they want to keep forward-compatibility but there's only so much they can do. They'll end up with 20700 batteries and the runtime and draw will make new tools a possibility, but running a current 3.0-5.0 on it will mean your runtime is limited enough to be disappointing. It will all but force you to upgrade batteries, but for the "but what if I need just one more cut" guys will be satiated.
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You can frame plenty with a 2731 with a 5.0. Even more with a 9.0. Or use two 18v batteries and have even more power than FlexVolt with the new Makita rear-handle. A circular saw isn't the tool I'd go to to prove that point. Moreso the high draw tools like you said. It will be interesting to see comparisons between SDS Max Fuel and FlexVolt. The 20700 cells make all the difference. NPS17 will be interesting. "New M18 Fuel batteries: Fuel 6.0, Fuel 9.0: 1.1x redder than FlexVolt, 10x more innovative than standard RedLithium".
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The heads are different sizes, but handle length as well can be an issue. Depends what you're using them on. 7.25 and 10 are most common I think.
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I always say, trade specific tools: go Milwaukee. At this stage I'd say GC/wood working go Dewalt. I'm very happy to have an extensive line of both in my collection. Plus if I want hardboiled eggs on the jobsite I only need to drill a few decent size holes with my 2704 and that little beast is ready to boil some water, right @JimboS1ice lol.
Milwaukee does have a TrueView obsession that's plain to see. Dewalt got my money for woodworking gear because Milwaukee nailers belong at the firing range with all that kickback, their planer is brushed, and their mitre saw has brutal dust collection that won't work very well in my home shop.
It took this long for Dewalt to eat into my Milwaukee budget because their releases were so sparse and half-assed I thought they might be leaving the tool business
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I can confirm, channellock is my preferred budget brand. As for catch-all Knipex... probably a 10" pliers wrench and a 10" Cobra. I think a reasonable rule of thumb for popular sizes is browse the catalogue and look at what comes in comfort grip. Basically everything is available in dipped; multi material I would guess 2/3 of options. If you look at Cobras the 7.25, 10 and 12 are available comfort grip. Pliers wrench 6, 7.25, and 10. That tells me 10" is probably a versatile size for Cobras. Pliers wrench I'd go 10 on just because the price and head size doesn't change a whole lot. Capacity and leverage increases though.
In a line with a ton of great tools I would likely call the Cobras and pliers wrench their Crown Jewels. I'd start there. The raptor is amazing for POS fittings down the road.
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Last years NPS was a rehash of stuff from the year before that still hadn't made it to market, a new season of heated gear walking down the runway, the next generation of Chinese hand tools, levels, knives, and a couple oddball gems like the transfer pump and trade specific goodies.
For the general contractor or woodworker Dewalt's reveal was basically non-stop "and you could use this, this would speed you up, this is more powerful and affordable than Milwaukee, this is safer to operate than Milwaukee, and this is something Milwaukee never imagined".
I'm a huge Milwaukee fan and I bought my first yellow tool a month after NPS16 and FlexVolt reveal.
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My collection keeps growing. 8" combination, 8" high leverage cutters, 5, 7.25, 10" pliers wrench, 5, 7.25, 10, 12" Cobras, 8" side cutting needlenose, raptors, lineman's.
6" pliers wrench, ES Cobras and x-cut diagonals on the way now. Probably getting to the end of my Knipex journey soon. Those needlnose combination pliers are definitely calling my name.
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43 minutes ago, jkeating3 said:
I look forward to more questionable (or misleading) stats from Red this year. I also expect they will try to shoot for the moon. They won't like that they got out-innovated last year.
They really did have a fit last year. "we have a 10" sliding mitre!" Dewalt "we have a 12" hybrid sliding mitre" Milwaukee "new batteries! But new batteries! Ours uses same old batteries! Batteries!!!!"
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Why would they decline. No receipt goes off date stamp for manufacturing and seeing as the surge hasn't been around 5 years I foresee 0 problems.
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^The high torque is a heavy pig. I love it but only bring it out when it needs to be brought out. I'd bet money we see a gen2 revision of it this year with ridiculous power.
Ill definitely be getting a mid torque. Looks awesome and convenient.
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Milwaukee and Dewalt both have shows in June seemingly every year. Milwaukee's is called "new product symposium" (NPS), Dewalt shows I honestly haven't paid much attention to. I know Milwaukee has had a big show for at least the past 5 years. I only started really paying attention to yellow last year with "world's first" and their marketing campaign and FlexVolt blowout. Before that I just made fun of the guys on site using Dewalt because there never seemed to be any cool stuff coming out while Milwaukee had tons of great stuff. Now we know what they were up to lol.
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I'd be happy with a Ego styled self-propelled unit running off of 30 20700 cells.
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34 minutes ago, Jronman said:
I could see a 120v mower, a 120v vac, an orbital sander in either 20v or 60v, and a 60v 1/4in or 1/2in router
Sign me up for all of the above lol. And some paper towel to wipe up my drool
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Lol the questions in this thread weren't very general. Quite specific in fact
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5 hours ago, Jronman said:
would be nice. A corded hybrid would be cool as well.
Exactly. By having it be 120v Max I automatically assume and would expect the mitre adapter would work for it.
3 hours ago, jkeating3 said:I have a feeling that this year's Flexvolt tools are going to fulfill a lot of wish lists. I have no reason to think this. I just have a feeling.
Having seen the difference in potential between the FlexVolt 3.0/9.0 and the M18 9.0 I have no reason not to believe this year's FlexVolt showing will make last year's look like small potatoes.
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6 minutes ago, Jronman said:
yeah concord carpenter talked about it.
Yep, we'll see. I'm wondering if we'll see a 120v Max 10" table saw at this year's show.
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1 hour ago, Jronman said:
There have been a few DeWALT tools that have won.
Usually followed by excuses for the red tool or reasons it's still "a respectable and worthy competitor at the power tool Olympics" (paraphrasing of course).
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