MikeInCtown

So the worlds first was actually the most hyped product launch that wasn't even as good as their competitors?

Unless there is some magic involved, either battery can only run one tool at a time. You may think that the new battery can run two tools because one is a higher voltage but in reality if the other company has the same tools that run on the same battery then it's a wash and you get zero benefit other than the marketing of higher voltage.

Got an email from Ohio Power Tool and saw they are taking preorders for the polisher. Due late July apparently. https://www.ohiopowertool.com/p-16019-milwaukee-m18-fuel-7-variable-speed-polisher-tool-only-2738-20.aspx

First, those corded tools that were passed down cost a bunch of money back in the day. You might sit there and think well he paid $100 for it and now they are $200, but you don't realize that the $100 back then might be worth $350 today. As far as today's cost, you need to weight the benefits. A compact impact driver to me is well worth the $200 price tag if I can program it like I can, and I can crawl under a car withouta cord, or change a tire on the side of the road with it, or grab the tool and go from location to location without coiling up a cord every 5 minutes. Time is money. The last three times I've used my compact impact at work I would guess I saved myself well over an hour in labor just by not needing to constantly move or coil an extension cord. That time saved already paid for any extra cost of the impact, and that is only a month into ownership. Those old tools are also far heavier than the ones on the market today, which means you may fatigue faster and get less work done. They are also corded so you need to have electric available where you are working. so that means extra time spent running cords, the cost of a temporary panel, or cost of a portable generator. You also look more professional if you aren't asking your client where you can plug in your stuff. As far as batteries, DeWalt is still selling their old 18V packs that they used in the drills 20 years back. Hell i still got one! never use it though because it is so slow and underpowered compared to today's models. Still, even if they stopped producing the batteries, you can still buy the Sub C cells and repair them yourself. I do see your point though in having some corded tools. High draw high use tools are better off being corded. For the majority of a lot of people though, both professional and homeowner, cordless is a far better choice for most needs.

Well I know for a fact that my girlfriend's mom has a 20v lithium black and decker weedeater that has the motor in the tail section. It has two speeds, though there is only one trimmer line that spins vs two as a normal weedeater would have. Personally I can't see how you wouldn't want the motor to be in the rear. Because the head and shaft length, you need something to counterbalance that weight further away. By putting a motor and gearbox near the spool, you only make it unbalanced.

have you checked CPO? they still have their M12 deals for the next few days where you get free batteries with certain purchases. Could save you a couple hundred over what Home Depot has going right now.

I can understand the higher voltage for use of a given size wire and amp draw. For everything else it is basically just marketing. With the electronics in the tools these days, they could take an 18v pack and pump the power up internal to the tool. One thing I don't understand is why they would want to go over the low voltage limitations and be subject to even tougher and more stringent laws regarding voltages. (do those laws cover battery power, or just AC current?)

So am I understanding this correctly, they have come out with yet ANOTHER battery platform? This is one of the reasons why I ditched DeWalt to begin with. Others started to settle on one platform while DeWalt was still selling two styles of 18V batteries and tools. As far as voltage, it means nothing without the amp hours to back it up. Which is why i suspect Milwaukee put out their comparison pictured above.

WalMart? LOl Yeah Walmart is going to be the cheapest place I know of to get a battery for the tractor. Though I will say I was absolutely AMAZED that I was able to pick up an AGM battery for my motorcycle from Amazon for $30 shipped. They are in the $80+ range any more and I thought the $30 price was too good to be true. Works perfect though, so it's worth a check.

The best ones are the ones which list for like $80 and they are selling at $79.99. They give you a message that the item is on sale for $.01 off. Or a brisket slicing knife I have in my wishlist. It is $99.95 now. Price dropped by $.04 since I added it to my wishlist.

Great deal! I'd have picked one up at that price too even though it is 90 freaking degress here. Not sure if anyone else is on the UnderArmour email list but they sent me a personal code last week for a $40 off of $100 purchase. Best part was that it even worked on sales items. Got a Storm hooded sweatshirt and two polo shirts for $65 shipped with tax. Oh, and with Amazon I find that if you put a ton of stuff in your wishlist that it is an easy way to keep track of discounts. last week I noticed a headset that had been $130 was down to $83. Wouldn't have ever noticed had it not been for the wishlist.

Without a doubt the M12 line from Milwaukee. In fact I happen to like the Milwaukee stuff without the 4.0 battery in it. (just the 2.0 stick pack) With that smaller pack in the tools, they are compact, lightweight, and don't get hung up on stuff. Also contrary to what others are saying, I find the M12 fuel and regular drills and impact drivers significantly smaller and much lighter than the M18 counterparts. Could be because my M18 stuff all has the 5.0 battery packs which are bulky and heavy.

I think it's actually called purple power. I have a bottle of it in the garage. I also have a couple gallons of the same stuff from Costco, but it isn't purple.

What leaked? If oil leaked then why worry. Asphalt and the sealers are oil based. If it was some other fluid, then just get a gallon of the purple stuff or other degreaser and scrub it off.

20.2V MAX batteries.

FWIW the one key kits do NOT come with the rapid charger. I even sent Milwaukee a message via FB which they never responded to. I wouldn't care that they didn't include the rapid charger EXCEPT in the photos on Milwaukee's own website, they show the rapid charger as being included!! Though in fairness, the part number they give is for the standard charger. Still, they should have their sh together.

I commented a day or two back about just getting into the 12v lineup. I used my new Fuel Hackzall yesterday for the first time. Had to cut up a tree which had rotten at the base and fallen over. The thickest part was 6" around. (tree was maybe 10-12" high and about the same diameter with branches) Used the Diablo 9" pruning blade. In less than a half battery charge I cut the entire (small) tree into 2' long sections which completely fit in a wheelbarrow for removal. The tool got hot as hell but never stopped. This morning I put a new Milwaukee torch blade in it and started cutting up steel. Like a hot knife through butter. I'm very impressed with this tool, and with the 12V fuel in general so far. The 4.0xc batteries last quite a while too.

I bought into the Milwaukee 18V lineup with their Onekey system (have the drill, impact driver, and compact impact wrench) then I got the Fuel circular saw. I had planned on staying with the 18v as I didn't want multiple voltage batteries to service and purchase. A deal over at CPO changed that and I am now into the 12v system. As mentioned they have stuff that isn't available in their 18v lineup. I bought the fuel hackzall and plan on eventually getting the 1/4" and 3/8" ratchets for tighter spots where my impact driver can't fit. I may also wind up with the drain snake at work and possibly one or two other tools. I was hoping that they would come put with a brushless multi tool in 18v, but now that I have the 12v and my uses are limited, I'l just grab the model that costs less. So I guess in a way the 12v and second voltage is a benefit for me.

Just a random thought, but what if some new Milwaukee product was actually the same thing as the "DeWalt world's first" and now the DeWalt launch would be the world's second?

For as much as they cost, they better be better than the lighting from anyone else.

<<<SOLD>>>Figured I would post this here in case someone needed one and already had a bunch of batteries. New in box bare tool 2520-20 M12 Fuel Hackzall. Asking $110 shipped via USPS priority mail, including Paypal fees and will ship from Cleveland, OH. I picked up a couple of these to get the extra batteries and don't need 2, so I'm trying to sell this one at a decent discount and make back a few bucks.

I'll be buying the polisher. Interested in the weedeater as well, but it appears that the battery in use is their 9.0 battery on it. Was I reading right in some of the photos that with the 9.0 that the tool is capable of using it at 54V?? 18x3 through the use of the battery taps rather than straight 18v??

The only reason I can see making many of the fuel tools onekey is for theft or location tracking. (like a sawzall) That said, if they have the 2763 high torque go one key, i can see a whole lot of them being sold.

30 new fuel tools? My poor bank account!!! BTW, where is a list, if there is one already?

I think it all depends on your work level, or at least for it it does. When I make intricate cuts I generally have the work very low and I am almost on top of the work looking down, so I find the top handle easiest. (plus with the trigger lock, I "set it and forget it") if I didn't position my work in that way, I am sure the barrel grip would be far easier. On straighter cuts I usually find that I position the work a bit higher. Not exactly sure why i do it this way, but that just seems to be the way I find myself doing the work.