Conductor562 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Need to get a new set of Countersink bits for general purpose use. Mine are cheap and beyond their life expectancy. Been looking at a 5 piece Irwin 1877793 set in the $40 range. What are you guys using? Any suggestions? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, Conductor562 said: Need to get a new set of Countersink bits for general purpose use. Mine are cheap and beyond their life expectancy. Been looking at a 5 piece Irwin 1877793 set in the $40 range. What are you guys using? Any suggestions? http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/830846/SNAPPY-5PC-COUNTERSINK-SET.aspx?gclid=CjwKEAiA4dPCBRCM4dqhlv2R1R8SJABom9pHmI4q5Ejl47IQRGbGTbcSk11ZT5Nu9mh4-GOPpOkBUhoCzfDw_wcB Try these Travis. Best ones out there for use in wood and USA made. I have two sets, one for Centrotec and one for standard 1/4 chucks. Absolutely awesome. I have a designated cabinet systainers and these are right at the top. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted December 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 1 minute ago, ChrisK said: http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/830846/SNAPPY-5PC-COUNTERSINK-SET.aspx?gclid=CjwKEAiA4dPCBRCM4dqhlv2R1R8SJABom9pHmI4q5Ejl47IQRGbGTbcSk11ZT5Nu9mh4-GOPpOkBUhoCzfDw_wcB Try these Travis. Best ones out there for use in wood and USA made. I have two sets, one for Centrotec and one for standard 1/4 chucks. Absolutely awesome. I have a designated cabinet systainers and these are right at the top. I saw those. How do they perform in metal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 http://www.montanabrandtools.com/ and.....try these out too. I got a set right before my son, Will was born. They came in while we're at Maine Med. they are sitting in my basement right now but USA made and very highly opined by a lot of woodworkers. There drill bits look pretty good too and very fairly priced though that Snappy set is a steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 1 minute ago, Conductor562 said: I saw those. How do they perform in metal? That's why I said wood, I have no idea bro. I'd try them in light duty metal but I have only drilled in metal a few times, most recently in the side of my last Tundra to install a headache rack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted December 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 I don't see a lot of people using the piloting type in metal. I guess a lot of its effectiveness would depend on the bit installed. I may just have to get both. That seems like the TIA solution to the problem ? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercorarius Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 I honestly don't even know the brand of the ones I use. It is whatever the steel supply keeps behind the counter. I've only had a need for one and actually used one once. No help here, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comp56 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 any time I needed to countersink a screw/bolt in metal to be flush I would drill hole large enough for head and deep enough to be flush, then drill through with smaller proper size hole for screw/bolt some time this was not always possible because of thickness of metal but when it worked it worked good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMack37 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 i have the Irwin set, it seems to work quite well in metal, I've used it in steel and aluminum. For wood I normally use the Kreg bit(if it's the right size) it just makes it easier to use one bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmikez Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Dammit guys reall?!?! Now I want some of these ??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SetBuilder Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 This style works real well in Aluminum or plastics. http://www.harborfreight.com/countersink-and-deburring-tool-set-3-pc-61629.html The irwins are nice for metal. The woodcraft ones are great for wood but would get wrecked on metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted December 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 To be honest, I'm a huge fan of Norseman drilling tools and all my metal drilling bits (1/16" - 1") are Norseman Magnums. However, I just don't do enough countersinking to justify the price, plus they are kinda hard to find. I also looked at Viking (still hard to find) and the only Chicago Latrobe sets I can find are the combination type, which I do not like. Maybe I'm just not very good at looking for them or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted December 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Bigmikez said: Dammit guys reall?!?! Now I want some of these ??? Amen brother! I've spend untold amounts of money on tools I didn't even know I wanted ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foneguy Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 KNOCK IT OFF........ I was just thinking I need a set of countersink bits the other day, too funny. i can get by on the cheap. I don't use them often, just wish I had then on the few times I needed them... Santa's sleigh is now a tractor trailer. !!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Irwin stuff isn't bad, I have quite a bit and it stands up well over time, I'd grab the irwins over the harbor fright Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foneguy Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 10 minutes ago, JimboS1ice said: Irwin stuff isn't bad, I have quite a bit and it stands up well over time, I'd grab the irwins over the harbor fright Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Thanks Jimbo, I was briefly toying with the HF idea..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SetBuilder Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 2 hours ago, JimboS1ice said: Irwin stuff isn't bad, I have quite a bit and it stands up well over time, I'd grab the irwins over the harbor fright Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I had a bunch of aluminum to countersink holes in and was using an Irwin counter sink. The counter sink holes were a little choppy, and one can't have that on ski's for Santa's sled. So a coworker gave me one of the odd looking bits. They worked great and I asked where he purchased them. He laughed and said the are the best deal at HF, just save them for AL and plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comp56 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, SetBuilder said: I had a bunch of aluminum to countersink holes in and was using an Irwin counter sink. The counter sink holes were a little choppy, and one can't have that on ski's for Santa's sled. So a coworker gave me one of the odd looking bits. They worked great and I asked where he purchased them. He laughed and said the are the best deal at HF, just save them for AL and plastic. FYI: because vinegar eats aluminum it is great to use while drilling cutting or countersinking for lubricate plus it leave a real shiny finish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted December 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 The Norseman Countersinks use the same single holed style as the HF bits. Maybe they're onto something. I do zero work with aluminum though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmcmillan Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Do you really need five sizes of countersink? Having one or two really nice ones has always served me better especially in steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted December 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 4 hours ago, jeffmcmillan said: Do you really need five sizes of countersink? Having one or two really nice ones has always served me better especially in steel. I can't honestly say I have a pressing need for a 5 piece set, nor can I say I require any particular level of quality for no more than I use them. I suppose I'm looking for a happy medium of need and capability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmcmillan Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, Conductor562 said: I can't honestly say I have a pressing need for a 5 piece set, nor can I say I require any particular level of quality for no more than I use them. I suppose I'm looking for a happy medium of need and capability Don't worry, I'm not arguing for fewer unless it's for the sake of better. I haven't used the Irwin ones so they could be some the best for all I know. $40 for the set though you could probably get a carbide or pair of cobalt ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theultimatehic Posted December 25, 2016 Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 I have a set of Irwin countersink bits from hd. They work fine for me just have to use at low rpm to avoid the skipping so a variable speed trigger is necessary when using them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted December 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 23 hours ago, Theultimatehic said: I have a set of Irwin countersink bits from hd. They work fine for me just have to use at low rpm to avoid the skipping so a variable speed trigger is necessary when using them. Thanks for the feedback. I still haven't decided what direction to go with these yet. You'd think it was a major purchase as indecisive as I'm being about it. I guess the tool junkie in me just enjoys the thrill of the hunt and mulling over a minor purchase for weeks ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SetBuilder Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 I just picked up this set at lower, kind of hard to beat for the price. https://www.lowes.com/pd/IRWIN-5-Pack-Black-Oxide-Twist-Drill-Bit-Set/50247077 I'm not sure why the same set in a fancy case is 40.00 on amazon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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