torontotoolman Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 https://instagram.com/p/6oQQzDkxDx/I know a bunch of milwaukee boys are gonna be saying how this is not a fare tool fight or "pre drilled holes" blah blah but this was at the milwaukee evant at atlas tool shop today and i see nothing unfare and i personally know this guy he is the real deal a general contractor who knows his tools and uses his tools on the daily he owns and loves every brand Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontotoolman Posted August 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 This is a side by side i k ow boths guys and apparently the milwaukee rep was there to see it and was pretty bummed but its all far and legit Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Not exactly scientific. One guy handles the Makita like a pro, one guy holds the Milwaukee cock eyed and lets it shake the crap out of him. My 2653 hasn't rattled my brain the way that 2753 seems to lol. Hopefully I'm not disappointed when I get my hands on one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryNY Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 One test does not make a full comparison though. Purely from the spec sheet this would be predicted. I think the Makita is 3600RPM while the Milwaukee runs 3000RPM. Doesn't the Milwaukee have 1800 in-lbs of torque vs.1600 for the Makita? This would mean the Milwaukee could drive everything the Makita could albeit a little slower but then there would be stuff the Makita would get stopped on that the Milwaukee would keep driving, that and near the Makita's maximum torque the Milwaukee would be having a much easier time and be faster. They're both great but if you're doing lags longer than your forearm I think a Makita or Milwaukee impact wrench would be the way to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbw55 Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 I could care less who wins any tool fight but the guy operating the Milwaukee should learn how to use a tool.....the other guy was using the tool straight on and not strugling....the Milwaukee user always had the tool at an angle and could barely hang on to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmcmillan Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Really shows the Makita has more power behind it even if the Milwaukee has more torque. The long lag has a lot more spring so it makes the difference much more visible. Other situations the Milwaukee might win, but looks like the Makita will win 90+% of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwain Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 It's not a surprising result. The Makita has great power and HUGE RPM. For most contractors (IMO), driving batten screws like that is the hardest job they'll give their impact driver most days. Will it be a different story driving enormous lags without pre-drilling? We shall see when a more comprehensive comparison is done. For my money, the tiny Makita with 3600RPM will be very hard to beat for most contractors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryNY Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 On a slightly tangential topic but does anyone else remember before impact drivers became ubiquitous struggling to use drills to drive even much smaller lags and now you see tiny impact drivers nonchalantly driving in 2 ft. lags... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comp56 Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 https://instagram.com/p/6oQQzDkxDx/I know a bunch of milwaukee boys are gonna be saying how this is not a fare tool fight or "pre drilled holes" blah blah but this was at the milwaukee evant at atlas tool shop today and i see nothing unfare and i personally know this guy he is the real deal a general contractor who knows his tools and uses his tools on the daily he owns and loves every brandSent from my SGH-I337M using TapatalkI didn't say it has pre-drilled holes, I said the way he did his video you couldn't tell because the video starts while driving .....I also said if it that Makita wins that test so be it. I own both big boy Milwaukee fuel drill and impact and am happy enough to keep them and not run out and buy Makita.......like I also said I have worked with some kind of power tools for longer than some of the members have known what power tools are and I am firm with Milwaukee Quality and performance ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontotoolman Posted August 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 I didn't say it has pre-drilled holes, I said the way he did his video you couldn't tell because the video starts while driving .....I also said if it that Makita wins that test so be it. I own both big boy Milwaukee fuel drill and impact and am happy enough to keep them and not run out and buy Makita.......like I also said I have worked with some kind of power tools for longer than some of the members have known what power tools are and I am firm with Milwaukee Quality and performance .....I dont remeber who it was but on one of the other videos i posted someone or more then one person mentions somwthing about pre drilled holes for the makita and also said the makita had a head start but he it is a clear cut case but anyway this isnt posted to start another makita milwaukee battle im just showing the new hyped up gen 2 fuel impact for a first hands on little clip of it in actionSent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmikez Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Man the guy holding the milwaukee really did a bad job at using that impact, not that I'm saying it means anything they're both Beast and would be happy to own either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontotoolman Posted August 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Man the guy holding the milwaukee really did a bad job at using that impact, not that I'm saying it means anything they're both Beast and would be happy to own either.Ya my buddy was saying its how the milwaukee is balanced and it has a really bad wobble Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryNY Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 I think this forum needs a TOOL FIGHT section were member can get their aggression out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontotoolman Posted August 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 I think this forum needs a TOOL FIGHT section were member can get their aggression out!Lol theres no agression but it would be cool to drill your drill to a drill off competition Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Ya my buddy was saying its how the milwaukee is balanced and it has a really bad wobble Sent from my SGH-I337M using TapatalkThat doesn't mirror my ownership experience with the 2453 or 2653 M12/M18 Impact drivers at all. I could buy it being that specific driver, but representative of all 2753s? I would find that harder to believe. We will see when more reviews come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryNY Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Don't worry in a couple weeks we'll have dozens of comparisons to look at.., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kornomaniac Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Its a cool first look.But its like dwain says. The 3600/rpm of the Makita is what makes the difference and will make the Makita an easy winner in 99 procent of impact use.Having more torque is all cool and that but the only time your impact actually delivers that maximum torque is on a hard connection metal on metal when the bolt head hits the metal beneath it and the bolt cant go any further. Only then will that maximum torque been transfered.Max torque hardly matters on an impact in 99 procent of the cases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwain Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Max torque hardly matters on an impact in 99 procent of the cases Yeah, but if you're trying to sink 3/8" or 1/2" lag screws into timber without pre-drilling, the max torque starts to matter a lot. As much as un-drilled lag torque tests look great on video, I just don't think its that common in real life. Also, unloaded RPM means nothing. Tools need to have enough power behind them when a real world load is applied, to keep those RPMs high enough. This is where the Makita shines, and it really blew me away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Maxwell Tyler Ray Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Makita is my 2nd favorite and it's nice to see other companies stepping up their game..but no matter what anyone says..if you buy any of the top 5 or so drill brands your going tobe plenty enough happy and get the job done jus as efficiently!!Competition in consumer base products is only better for the consumer!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell Tyler Ray Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 But those new makitas are pretty badass and I'm digging these new colors!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kornomaniac Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Yeah the top brands are quite close together. We're focusing on just that little bit of extra oomph being tool nuts ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bothuhead19 Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 I think it's the 3800 to 3600 IPM rather than the RPM's that makes the bigger difference since it's under load. But either way, both great tools, but Makita's cost $369 compared to $299 Milwaukee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell Tyler Ray Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Yeah the top brands are quite close together. We're focusing on just that little bit of extra oomph being tool nuts ^^Yea being tool maniacs that most of us are on here we gotta split hairs on what's the top dog!!! Hahaha wouldn't have it any other way!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontotoolman Posted August 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Yea being tool maniacs that most of us are on here we gotta split hairs on what's the top dog!!! Hahaha wouldn't have it any other way!!!I feel you to be real each tool brand has there followers and its kinda like a gang but obviously not in a criminal way but to be honest every tool is good but people just want there brand "gang" "color" to be the best Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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