Cr8ondt
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To quote my self from another forum:
"as I understand it the discharge rate of 18650 cells above 2.5ah are not very adequate for the high demand put on them by most tools where as 20700 cells have larger headroom to go beyond 3ah. I suspect Milwaukee's 9ah (using 15 3ah 18650 cells) can overcomes this problem due to the vast stable of brushless tools that require somewhat less dischage of the battery. Dewalt on the other hand has mostly brushed motors out in the hands of their users and wouldn't want to gamble on potentially exploding batteries."
pchem315:
Are they in the 9Ah FlexVolt?
Yes, the 9Ah FlexVolt batteries definitely are using 20700. You can see the 9.0Ah batteries are larger to accommodate the 20700 cells.
@cr8ondt has got it right, at least up to his speculation, but it's inline with what I heard.The speculation from the NPS16 attendees is that Milwaukee was late bringing out the 9.0Ah battery because the 3ah 16850s are right on the edge of viability and they were having heat issues, but Milwaukee never verified that.
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Its been out for only about a month or so, Stuart from ToolGuyD posted some info: http://toolguyd.com/dewalt-dcd777-brushless-cordless-drill/ and the online specs of the DCF787 are (last I checked) nonexistent but I did see the kit at Lowes and its rated at 1500 in-lbs and is EXACTLY like the DCF886 with the chuck of a DCF887.
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2 hours ago, midogrumpy said:
looks my questions were overlooked with so many comments in this thread
Does anyone already know with what tool(s) this battery (20V max 6,0Ah) will be bundled with as a kit ?
hence, we would also then know the abbreviation of battery (type)
e.g.
M2 was 2x 4,0Ah
P2 was 2x 5,0Ah
Reminder: one of worlds largest building fairs/trade show in Munich Germany as of Jan16th 2017
Dewalt (as all other major tools companies) have a big booth
I know some product managers there, maybe some "disclosed secrects" to be heard of;
For sure the new flexvolt sds hammer will be shown !
cheers
Not overlooked, my guess is nobody knows for sure. So I guess when you see it you'll know.
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1 hour ago, DaveJr. said:
Holy crap 12 ah! Pretty soon we'll be strapping car batteries to our tools!
Nah they would have to change the name to 16 volts max.
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34 minutes ago, DaveJr. said:
If I was in the market for a high capacity battery, I would rather have 2 6ah (12 total) for $180 rather then 1 9ah (9 total) for $200
Haha Right!!! I agree, but these are made for the guys wanting the 3ah side of them...... poor bastards that want em for the miter gotta shell out $400!
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18 minutes ago, Conductor562 said:
He's a fucking asswipe and would say anything a manufacturer asked him to say. I personally don't even give him the benefit of a view. In this case he's probably just being a whore.
I rank him right up there with Todd from TBB who gave a tool of the year award to a tool that had been completely recalled for being shitty.
Even though it makes him look like the jackass that he is, and anyone with half a brain can see and feel that they are clearly different, I've taken the liberty of deleting the link. Nothing against you, I know you aren't familiar with the situation, I just don't care for him after the shit he pulled here.
lol its cool, just popped up on my news feed, thought it was worth a chuckle.
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hummm Tool Craze is reporting the 9/3 is the same size as the 6/2.... even goes so far to say the same size cells.......
I'm kinda sure hes wrong.....
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The battery charge indicator on the packs could be faulty, this is not uncommon and widely documented, contact DeWalt customer service and they will a) email you a paid postage lable for replacement or b ) just send you a new one asking you to "dispose" of the faultly packs(really they are probably just fine but no charge indicator). Good luck
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Left is a Porter Cable right is a Black and Decker as you can see are Identical. Fatmax and Bostitch batteries are also the same on the inside. With VERY LITTLE physical modification to the cases these batteries are all interchangeable.
More of the discussion @ToolGuyD https://discuss.toolguyd.com/t/this-is-inspired-by-the-toolguyd-battery-article/158
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Logically they should ditch 1.5, 3, and 5.
The 2, 4 and 6/2 all use the same 2ah 18650 cells and the new batteries use 3ah 20700's. Losing the other SKUs would help them increase purchase volume of the 2 remaining cells leading to better margins and potentially lower cost to the end-users (us).
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Currently DeWalt deems 2.5ah to be the largest capacity 18650 cell they will use, 20700 cells offer significant improvements, so much so that Panasonic/Sanyo and Elon Musk are investing BILLIONS in this form factor. So its not science fiction to think that 4ah or even 5ah cells can become a very real thing.
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6 hours ago, Bremon said:
The 9ah FlexVolt is massive.
taking clues from this 6ah, add an other row of 20700 cells and that should give your imagination just how big the 9/3 Flex will be...... its gunna be huge! I'm already struggling with the thought of seeing this 6 on an 887.
Also kinda worth noting is the price $189 = 12ah vs HD's Milwaukee price of $199 for the 9ah(yes I know they can be had for less, just comparing current in store prices)
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1 minute ago, JimboS1ice said:
They are longer right?
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkLonger, taller, wider
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7 minutes ago, AnonymousJoe said:
Wish they would've done a little more with the looks of them
Yeah that sticker is horrible! They should have stuck with the older style
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24 minutes ago, sgand said:
Are they the same size as the Flexvolt batteries?
Since Lowes doesn't carry FlexVolt I couldn't side by side them but Id say they are roughly similar sized but are different, if that makes any sense.
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8 minutes ago, Turner85 said:
That clears up that earlier topic
Lol yup! Was gunna post the pics there but these are big enough for their own topic
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Just happened across em, took a pic of the 4ah for size comparison.... Man these are big!!!
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I see(or rather hope to see) DeWalt transitioning to more 20700 cell in new packs, with the 6ah and the 9/3ah Flex using them, a 3ah slim pack becomes a real possibility. Wishful thinking? Had a rather good discussion over on Stuart's forum about this possibility.
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I'm kinda in the no music crowd, that said i do have a BT speaker i take to my jobs, gotta love audio books!
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9 hours ago, JimboS1ice said:
Pretty sweet! 7/16 is fairly common in industrial settings, they are more durable than a 1/4"
Wait what 7/16 more durable than 1/4....... since when is bigger better lololololol
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Hitachi has a few brushless corded tools, couple SDS hammers come to mind.
http://www.hitachi-koki.com/powertools/products/demolish/dh40mey/dh40mey.html
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On 12/8/2016 at 4:17 PM, JimboS1ice said:
Just need a 3D printer or ability to have stuff 3D printed, I believe there was a member on here who did some stuff to that nature
Nailed it.... Who needs a 3d printer? I gotta say my working proto is ugly a hell but stupid simple.... But that's for another time and topic ?
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3 hours ago, DPSElias said:
Wow that is cool I like that organization as this will also help with battery rotation! Hopefully I can find some stateside.
Looks easy to make.... Hummm wheels turning.....
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Ah I see your point 985 vs 996, Personally I'd never notice any inconvenience as I never turn the clutch down on the big drill, Big drill = Big holes/ and concrete, little drill = "delicate" work LOL
I don't envision Flexvolt going the way of the dodo but at the same time I have no absolute need for anything in the lineup either, though its good to know IF I ever NEED them I'll have a compatible/complementary upgrade path.
Thanks for your insight.
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6 is quite a stretch, 5 as of yet is doubtful but 4/12 is a very likely.... Give it a year or two and who knows lol