kornomaniac Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 Hello all ! I just received Makita's new compacts yesterday. Atleast the hammer drill model Here are some comparison pictures between the old model DHP480 and the new DHP484 On the left side: Old DHP480 On the Right side: New DHP484 We see a much higher speed. 2000 rpm's against the old 1550 and an aluminium gear housing instead of plastic Size comparison in height: The new DHP484 is noticably shorter. About 2 centimetrers Size comparison from the back: Also here we see the body of the new DHP484 is slimmer Size comparison from the top: Now the new Model is on the Left of course. We see it's alot shorter again but a littlebit bigger in the Width? And finaly a weight comparison: 5 Grams heavier ! All in all very good upgrades 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makita_2233 Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 9 hours ago, kornomaniac said: Hello all ! I just received Makita's new compacts yesterday. Atleast the hammer drill model Here are some comparison pictures between the old model DHP480 and the new DHP484 On the left side: Old DHP480 On the Right side: New DHP484 We see a much higher speed. 2000 rpm's against the old 1550 and an aluminium gear housing instead of plastic Size comparison in height: The new DHP484 is noticably shorter. About 2 centimetrers Size comparison from the back: Also here we see the body of the new DHP484 is slimmer Size comparison from the top: Now the new Model is on the Left of course. We see it's alot shorter again but a littlebit bigger in the Width? And finaly a weight comparison: 5 Grams heavier ! All in all very good upgrades This is the new BL hammer model in Australia DHP483Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kornomaniac Posted August 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 Yeah thats the petite Tiny one Only have the normal drill driver version of that one DDF483 in the store Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 It is small, not a fan of compact hammers, I used it on my m12 Fuel once and wish I never even did thatJimboSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrius Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 Thank for comparison, nice new drill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrich1 Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 can you compare it to the sizes of the 12v cxt brushless and non brushless drills? depending on the size it would keep me from diving into the 12v platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 Great stuff @kornomaniac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kornomaniac Posted September 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 11 hours ago, rrich1 said: can you compare it to the sizes of the 12v cxt brushless and non brushless drills? depending on the size it would keep me from diving into the 12v platform. I could but I got my Vacation right now Will be halfway september Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrich1 Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 3 hours ago, kornomaniac said: I could but I got my Vacation right now Will be halfway september ill wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 On August 29, 2016 at 4:49 PM, JimboS1ice said: It is small, not a fan of compact hammers, I used it on my m12 Fuel once and wish I never even did that Jimbo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Agreed Jimbo. It's a task that they're not really well suited to, and they add a bit of weight and length to a tool that otherwise focuses on how light and compact they are. Compact drill/drivers: fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makita_2233 Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 On 30 August 2016 at 8:49 AM, JimboS1ice said: It is small, not a fan of compact hammers, I used it on my m12 Fuel once and wish I never even did that Jimbo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Why is that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makita_2233 Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 4 hours ago, Bremon said: Agreed Jimbo. It's a task that they're not really well suited to, and they add a bit of weight and length to a tool that otherwise focuses on how light and compact they are. Compact drill/drivers: fantastic. One the makita BL cxt 12v max the hammer adds 14mm to the overall length and bugger all weight. Comparing it to the BL drill/drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmcmillan Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 14mm is a decent bit for such a compact drill meant for tight spaces The problem with compact hammer drills is the same as larger hammer drills just worse. If I could always have an SDS drill on hand and never tough a hammer drill again I'd be happier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 6 hours ago, Makita_2233 said: One the makita BL cxt 12v max the hammer adds 14mm to the overall length and bugger all weight. Comparing it to the BL drill/drive That's still over half an inch on a tool that's meant to be minuscule, and likely not very much fun to drill concrete with. I'm not calling out Makita on this; basically all hammer drills add that amount of length. When you're using a full size drill it doesn't matter as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Truthfully, the more I look at it, it is amazing that they can put a functioning hammer mechanism in shuck a short package. Kudos there, kind of like the newer Bosch brushless EC Tech that will hopefully appear pretty soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makita_2233 Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 11 hours ago, jeffmcmillan said: 14mm is a decent bit for such a compact drill meant for tight spaces The problem with compact hammer drills is the same as larger hammer drills just worse. If I could always have an SDS drill on hand and never tough a hammer drill again I'd be happier. 6 hours ago, Bremon said: That's still over half an inch on a tool that's meant to be minuscule, and likely not very much fun to drill concrete with. I'm not calling out Makita on this; basically all hammer drills add that amount of length. When you're using a full size drill it doesn't matter as much. Sometimes an sds is not really suitable, too much impact joules. An example of where a small compact hammer would be good, installing wall plugs in a house with old brick ( soft brick ) and the dill dia is only 6mm or 1/4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmcmillan Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 2 hours ago, Makita_2233 said: Sometimes an sds is not really suitable, too much impact joules. An example of where a small compact hammer would be good, installing wall plugs in a house with old brick ( soft brick ) and the dill dia is only 6mm or 1/4 Every reputable manufacturer I can think of makes a small, high rpm, low impact energy rotary hammer for small holes and softer materials. If it's hard enough that I can't use a twist bit, I want a rotary hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 I agree with Jeff. The M12 Fuel is an awesome little unit, for example, and if I drilled small anchors regularly I'd buy the right tool for the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnarlyCarl Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 37 minutes ago, Bremon said: I agree with Jeff. The M12 Fuel is an awesome little unit, for example, and if I drilled small anchors regularly I'd buy the right tool for the job. Ah, the M12 rotary? i had to do a double take because I first thought you were talking about the drill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 No I'm not as big a fan of those lol. The small SDS is pretty awesome though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makita_2233 Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 59 minutes ago, Bremon said: I agree with Jeff. The M12 Fuel is an awesome little unit, for example, and if I drilled small anchors regularly I'd buy the right tool for the job. I agree on that. What I was getting at if you don't drill small anchors regularly a hammer drill will get the job done for a few holes around the house 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makita_2233 Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 1 hour ago, jeffmcmillan said: Every reputable manufacturer I can think of makes a small, high rpm, low impact energy rotary hammer for small holes and softer materials. If it's hard enough that I can't use a twist bit, I want a rotary hammer. Yeah I know and thought about buying the m12 rotay hammer for small holes but I only drill 7mm and below diameter holes a few times a year. I mostly drill 12mm-28mm and got the makita BL rotary hammer, the milwaukee m18chp and a few corded hilti's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 27 minutes ago, Makita_2233 said: I agree on that. What I was getting at if you don't drill small anchors regularly a hammer drill will get the job done for a few holes around the house Yeah, the majority of my drills are hammer drills for the same reason but I'll likely transition to hammer-less compacts and leave the hammer function on my full size units. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielicrazy Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 is this drill out in canada? What would the code be? I wish makita would make their model numbers easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielicrazy Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 How do you like this drill so far? It seems to have very similar dimensions to the new ultra compact, just with a bit more oumph. Still for the size, i'm surprised they couldn't get more torque in there seeing as the new milwaukee is also about the same size and almost triple the power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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