Jaybird Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 How does the Makita gear compare to every other 12V system out there. I am heavily invested in Ridgid for my 18V because it is slightly cheaper but I want a better tool for my 12v. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybird Posted January 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Can someone sell me on the Makita 12v system over others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmcmillan Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Easier to sell you on their 18V system: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-18-Volt-LXT-Lithium-Ion-Sub-Compact-Brushless-Cordless-2-piece-Combo-Kit-Driver-Drill-Impact-Driver-2-0Ah-CX200RB/207051121 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnarlyCarl Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Where's korno when we need him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Honestly, I have to recommend Milwaukee for 12V. There's nothing wrong with Makita, Milwaukee just offers so much more in 12V than the competition. It all depends on what you you want, but Milwaukee definitely offers the most upside in the 12V category. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 I'd add Bosch has an awesome 12v lineup that I love. They are certainly super compact tools compared to some of the Milwaukee lineup and currently have the second largest lineup of subcompact 12v tools however I digress....you asked about Makita and I don't own any of those 12v tools. I own a few 18v tools and the build quality of above expectation with every one of my Makita's . Hope that helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Cxt is new and releasing some tools, pretty economical in price, some stuff they cut corners on to save costs. But they are slide packs, I prefer the stick on the m12 and the tool selection is phenomenal. I'd say depends on your needs but the brushed makita drill and impact are just meh, definitely go brushless Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joemontague Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 16 hours ago, Jaybird said: Can someone sell me on the Makita 12v system over others. I have the subcompact drill and impact and love them 12v size 18v power 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Sorry for the confusion @Jaybird but you started two of these topics so I just merged them together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kornomaniac Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Do you need any of the specialty specific trade tools Milwaukee makes in the 12v line ? If yes, then go Milwaukee. If the answer is no, read on. Makita CXT is in my opinion the most modern 12v line on the market. The brushless drills/impact feature the best power/weight ratio on the market. Milwaukee drills are abit stronger but at the cost of being small 18v sized and weighted. Slide packs instead of pod style batteries. Although also abit of personal preference I think we can all agree that for the vast majority of people the slimmer grips of a tool with a slide pack is alot more comfortable then the fatter grips of pod style 12v tools like milwaukee or Bosch. As an added benefit they can stand straight up Battery gauges on the batteries themselves. Something that Makita lagged with in 18v. They are the first and possible only ? Manufacturer Wich puts battery gauges on their 12v batteries. Fastest 12v charger ( first place together with Hilti ). Less charging means more working. Impact driver with speed selections ! What we all love on 18v impacts is now available in 12v. And very important: Makita Japan CEO has let known that they are taking the new 12v CXT line very seriously and they will give milwaukee 12v line ( Wich is vastly bigger at the moment) a run for their money in each and every way This is an excellent review to read: www.protoolreviews.com/buying-guides/best-12v-cordless-drill-roundup/25102/ You will see Makita 12v packs power without leaving compact size. Also a negative note Do not buy the Makita 12v CXT brushed drills. They aren't anything special. Only their cheap price was. You want the brushless drills/drivers for the reasons summed up above ! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Very true brushed drill is nothing to write home about, impact isn't bad, but I want the brushless!Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Good. I'm glad they are taking this to the next level. It's hard for me to get into that lineup though, especially having the new compact brushless impact. Can use my 18v batteries and is as small as a 12v! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 11 hours ago, kornomaniac said: Impact driver with speed selections ! What we all love on 18v impacts is now available in 12v. To be fair, Milwaukee implemented a modest version of this years ago on M12 Fuel. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comp56 Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 I agree, you want 12V you can't beat Milwaukee for their line up of 12V plus they have the 2 speed on the impacts for awhile too as mentioned by Bremon.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 I will agree that the size of the Milwaukee M12 Fuel drill is a bit rediculous. I wanted a compact drill to use primarily for woodworking projects (pilot holes, mounting hinges, etc, etc) and went with my mind made up that I was getting the fuel. Once I got to really looking at it, it's extreme deminsions were every bit as big as the M18 compact and really defeated the purpose I was looking for. I ended up going with the much smaller brushed model and to be honest, I'm not overly crazy about it either. Performance is sufficient, but the grip sucks. I strongly prefer the Dewalt 12V drill (I have the identical Mac version), but it didn't make sense to me to stray from the line for one tool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousJoe Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 I haven't read this thread thru so I don't know if this helps or not but for drilling small holes, even some larger, I just use my impact. It's just so much smaller and so easy to change bits. It has more than enough power for small holes that it doesn't even impact while drilling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Agreed @Conductor562 the 2403/2404 are a bit ridiculously. Impressive 3 years ago but not so much now. Far too large. The 2704 isn't much bigger. My M12s were given away and I won't replace them unless gen 2 goes on an impressive diet but I feel Milwaukee will just chase paper power specs for better or worse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kornomaniac Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 14 hours ago, Bremon said: To be fair, Milwaukee implemented a modest version of this years ago on M12 Fuel. Wasn't aware ! Sorry milwaukee almost none existant in Belgium/Limburg. Not completely up to date with their tools ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aabee Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 I feel like Makita's 12v brushless line is what DeWalt's would and should have been if they gave a toss about their platform. Really disappointed with DeWalt. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/5/2017 at 10:40 AM, aabee said: I feel like Makita's 12v brushless line is what DeWalt's would and should have been if they gave a toss about their platform. Really disappointed with DeWalt. no doubt about that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd the Tinkerer Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Milwaukee the only company this has combined charging of 18 and 12 v tools on the same charging base. That is important to me because most job sites I am on power is limited and it is nice charging 2 batteries at the same time and it takes up less space. If you work in a shop all the time this may not matter. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmcmillan Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 6 hours ago, tcoscarelli said: Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Milwaukee the only company this has combined charging of 18 and 12 v tools on the same charging base. That is important to me because most job sites I am on power is limited and it is nice charging 2 batteries at the same time and it takes up less space. If you work in a shop all the time this may not matter. Dewalt's older chargers also supported 12V batteries, but the newer fast chargers don't since it looks like they're ending support for the 12V line. I have no idea why makita didn't support a dual charger since my 18V charger says 7.2-18V. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd the Tinkerer Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 Dewalt's older chargers also supported 12V batteries, but the newer fast chargers don't since it looks like they're ending support for the 12V line. I have no idea why makita didn't support a dual charger since my 18V charger says 7.2-18V.I think it makes sense to have dual chargers. It definitely encourages you to consider the other battery platform sense you look at the charger every day, taunting you with the vacant spot. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 25 minutes ago, jeffmcmillan said: Dewalt's older chargers also supported 12V batteries, but the newer fast chargers don't since it looks like they're ending support for the 12V line. I have no idea why makita didn't support a dual charger since my 18V charger says 7.2-18V. Did they come out and say they are ending the line yet? They have the new lasers but I haven't heard anything else. No new tools coming out for a while now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR99 Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 They are not killing the 12v line yet but I do think updates/new products are going to be rare. Most of the new tools have just been test and measurement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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