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thanks for the explanation Dominic. I wouldn't have thought these are 'small' pipes though, they look like a decent size, thick walled challenge to me? That pipe would certainly test the power of most cordless recips surely?
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Yep Milwaukee were the only ones with a BL circular saw, angle grinder and finally recip saw for quite some time.
With regard to the drill, yes Milwaukee GEN2 was needed to match the Makita/Metabo, but the original FUEL is what made the entire market up their game, and it took the market a LONG time to finally knock it off! THe original FUEL is still one of the best drills around, probably only beaten by the BL Makita, Metabo and GEN2 FUEL..
Also, I totally agree about the weight, that demonstration is totally rigged in favour of the cordless. It has much more weight at the business end by the looks of it.
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Yep. You guys talk about Dewalt for instance as if they compete with Milwaukee in volume, and perhaps they do in America. In Australia (and I"m sure lots of other non-US locations), they have no where near the market-share or popularity as Milwaukee / Makita. They are somewhere around Bosch (in cordless) and less so in electric.
My point being that American stuff is popular in America. European stuff is popular there etc...
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i forgot to post this yesterday when I heard. Hitachi Koki wants a share in the European market.
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Thanks all!!
Can it for example run the 1-1/2" switchblade at speed 2? (Second gear)
No it can't run an 1-1/2" switchblade in 2nd for long, none can. I tried it in our Milwaukee NPS video and it lasted a second or two...
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Glad you and Mike are back Dwain. Great overview of the drill. How do you think it stacks up against the Makita Monstah? ???o
Thanks Chris. I'm not sure it would beat the Makita in raw power test, but it's definitely very close. So close that the weight, ergonomics and size of the FUEL put it ahead of the Makita for me.
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Hey all,
oztooltalk's review of the Gen2 FUEL Drill is below. We reviewed in a way that made it easy to compare to our previous drill comparison.
We have a big backhaul to get through. We've still got the Gen2 Impact Driver & Impact Wrench to do shortly. Also Dewalt's BL HT Wrench and BL SDS (next week). Then we have an M12 mechanics mini-series containing: 3/8" FUEL Wrench, 3/8" Ratchet, Rotary Tool, Sander/Polisher plus sundries.
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It's impressive how so much power comes out of that smaller drill, I wonder if it's smaller than the m12 fuel drill now
Are you talking about Gen 2 FUEL? It's still a bigger/heavier drill than the M12 FUEL, though they're about the same length.
Here's a summary for everyone (shortest to longest, drill driver version (not hammer)). These could be a millimeter or two off.
M18 BL Compact - 175mm
M18 Compact - 185mm
M12 (3/8") - 185mm
M18 FUEL Gen 2 - 190mm
M12 FUEL - 193mm
M18 FUEL Gen 1 - 201mm
Sorry for going off-topic/Dewalt.
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This arrived this evening!
Sexy.
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True that, the new gen 2 makes me jealous
I just did a review on it last night, and will upload in the next week or so. It's pretty sweet, I'm very impressed by its size / form factor.
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The gen 2 Milwaukee drill is comparable to the Dewalt DCD995, the brushless hammer drill.
Disagree. The DCD995 caught up to the Gen1 FUEL model, the Gen 2 FUEL has leaped ahead again, and caught up to Makita / Metabo's top models.
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These dewalt drills are short in length so to me I classify them as compact. I also look at brushless all being on the same level. So I would compare it to the fuel gen 2 because its their top end models no?
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No. Being brushless or not speak to whether it's basic or high-end unit. Some models are compact models (lighter and smaller), others are heavy duty.
In Dewalt you have (choosing the non-hammer models):
Compacts
DCD771 (basic)
DCD780 (medium)
DCD790 (BL)
DCD791 (BL rev 2)
Heavy Duty
DCD980
DCD990 (BL)
The 980 will blow away all the compacts (for power), but I prefer a compact for most day-to day uses.
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The Makita chainsaw is only 10" though. The EGO is 14" and very powerful. Not sure about the others.
We (oztooltalk) reviewed the whole EGO range quite extensively, and its very good. It's weak point was the 12" Line Trimmer, not sure if the newer 15" is more powerful, but the extra diameter is certainly needed. The BL 18x2 Makita trimmer looks like a beast, as does their blower.
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Looks good! I also use the forum via the 'new content' button comp56. It's awesome to filter by threads I participated in or started. My TIA bookmark goes straight to 'new content'.
Do we still need to separate Power Tools & Power Tools By Manufacturer? Couldn't there just be an optional tag for manufacturers?
Thanks Conductor!
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coptool are going crazy on the comparisons at the moment!
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Speaking of ergonomics, the FUEL has the handle and trigger right in line with the bit, which is better.
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The Bosch is sexier, but I doubt it would keep up with the FUEL. The FUEL SDSs can compete will 240V rotary hammer drills...
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try putting a 4AH battery on one of your older tools, like a grinder or recip etc. Mike (my oztooltalk partner) was so fed up with it, he just sold half his Makita gear (the incompatible stuff, and his 3ah batteries).
Makita haven't advertised it much in Aus, but looks like their warranty here is 3/2 on tools/batts. Annoying we didn't get the same 3/3 warranty like the US.
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stick with the platform you already have. if you have both, the Dewalts appears to be better spec'd, I'll be reviewing it this weekend.
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^^ Their incomplete backward compatibility is still a sore point for me, and other users I'm sure. Have they introduced their longer warranty yet? That will be a big evener of the two brands for me...
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I think it does suck, but the Bosch and Metabo also do
The Dewalt and Milwaukee smash the other three in the time-trials.
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I'd be interested to see the power for driving lags and drilling with auger bits. Most reviews ignore those aspects and stick with the nuts and bolts of it.
with the HT wrench? Or just the compact wrench?
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I think Milwaukee has the strongest offering at the moment, with Makita not far behind. If you'd like to do a bit of an analysis (mathematically), you can try downloading my comparison spreadsheet and tinkering with it yourself. The default values in it are just my opinion.
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^^^ that's a totally different class though, much more powerful and much larger/heavier.
The DCF880 is a compact 1/2" wrench, though not brushless.
Milwaukee Gen2 FUEL Drill review - 2703 / 2704
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Cheers!