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Put aside some of the entry-level stuff for stamp-sized lawns, you still seem to get a lot more, and at a much, much more reasonable price. There are some noticeable difference though, the european version of the 21" plastic mower has a brushless motor and comes equipped with the high lift blade by default. A nicer package, except perhaps for the fact that you are asked to pay 2.5 times the price for it. 😀 Yes, from our side of the world it feels like you guys are only paying for batteries and receive the tools for free.... Just disgusting 😭 Perhaps one day, they'll start wondering why nobody is buying EGO stuff. That brand is invisible here. You don't even know it exists unless you spend tons of time browsing tool websites (like I do). At dealers (since it's only available there) showrooms are filled with costly Stihl/Honda/Husqvarna/Echo tools, sometimes you'll notice an EGO paper catalog laying around near the cash register. You ask about it, they tell you it's just chinese slave-made plastic junk for green hippies, and that, for the same price, you can buy high-end gas equipment from reputable pro-brands, made of durable metal parts. Moreover, they are serviceable and that can serve you for at least 10 years, will your battery last that much? How much does it cost to replace it? Oh only 400$. As much as I love EGO tools, their strategy to sell only at dealers, aligning their prices with top commercial brands, is laughable. Greenworks/Powerworks is doing a better a job in this area.

The dual blade system looks inspired by Honda / versamow. Hopefully, it will address some of the top criticizm against EGO (not-so-good mulching performance and lack of suction). I hope this model will be available on the european market (many EGO tools are not). The other problem is that the EGO brand is mostly sold at dealers (like Stihl / husqvarna), so you pay crazy premium prices for homeowner grade tools (catalog price of is the brushless 21" mower with 7.5ah battery is 1200$, 15" trimmer costs 300$ without battery etc...), they are never on sale and there is of course no right of return. Btw, it seems that there will be many decent mower options on the market in 2020, that new EGO, greenworks 60v gen 2, toro recycler 60v, craftsman by b&d, just to name a few.

I'd take the other approach: 9ah or 12ah can be an option for existing equipment, they absolutely don't have to be the primary choice for every type of tool. I believe that customers are smart enough to decide which size of battery makes sense on which tool. Those using larger OPE or vacuum cleaners may benefit from extra runtime beyond the current 110-120wh limitation, those using the sub-compact series are free to stick to 1.5-3ah. Other brands did a nice job (imho) with Flexwolt/multivolt systems, and nobody is forcing people to buy the larger Flexvolt batteries if they are happy with smaller XR packs. From all the possible routes, Makita chose the one that offered the least in terms of backward compatibility, let's hope that this choice will also come with some advantages (better motors?). Fair enough, but if the questionable absence of larger LXT batteries is going to be used as the main selling argument for XGT, some people will be (legitimately) upset.

I was surprised to learn that a LXT x4 mower has been announced (in fact it's 2x18v * 2 but still).... From the same people who are telling you that 18v / 9ah wouldn't make sense...

Is there any tool range comparable to Makita LXT in terms of size? Ryobi One+ perhaps? It may even make more sense for homeowners like me but I am not willing to be reasonable.. (.. or smart 😊).

An interesting mod from an EGO fan:

I share most of that feeling, different battery platforms can co-exist. On the other hand, I had hoped that XGT would offer some kind of one-way backward compatibility. Dewalt and Hikoki have done a good job in this regard with their Flexvolt/Multivolt systems. I am now hoping that 21700 cells will find their way to LXT, ideally sooner than later. I wouldn't want XGT to be the only option for capacities beyond 100 wh. Larger tools from the Makita OPE line can certainly benefit from a couple of extra ah.

Good to know!

Yes you are probably right, the total will reach "250" in 2020, sounds more realistic... The difference in meaning was not so clear in the translated text.

I have just read a FAQ regarding SGT on makita.be, here's what comes out: 1) When asked about the competition offering 9ah and 12ah battery packs, they answer that 18v 12ah batteries would be technically possible, but heavier, bigger, slower to charge and more expensive than their equivalent XGT counterpart. They are talking about 0,7 and 1 kilogram for their 2.5ah and 4ah version respectively. The 2.5ah can be fully charged in 28 minutes. According to them, their 40v 2.5ah weighs just a bit more than their 18v 5ah battery and less than any 18v / 9ah option currently on the market. 2) The XGT charger will require an adapter to charge LXT batteries. 3) They will keep releasing new LXT 36 volts tools, they are aware that a lot of customers are already equipped with 18 volt batteries and definitely can't ignore this fact. They still think that XGT 40v would nicely complement LXT for the most demanding tools. original article (in french ) http://www.makita.be/actualite/avec-xgt-makita-lance-une-plate-forme-daccus-orientee-vers-lavenir-.html?allowCookies=1

They are talking about 250+ new LXT tools in 2020. I guess we can probably forgive a couple of useless / ridiculous ones among those, don't ya think 😎?

Newer versions with 4 batteries should arrive soon, this time with a self-propelled option.

Is there any official statement from Makita regarding the 6ah limitation of LXT?

Some people have noticed a gap between the two batteries pack on some recent x2 tools, this might explain why... Could that also be the new OPE battery platform that Makita representatives have been talking about for years?

It's not particular to Slovenia, all these tools use Makita's european naming scheme. Most of the tools listed in bold have "brushless" motors that make them superior options compared to their older "brushed" counterparts.

I checked the flexvolt chainsaw manual and the only directives for long term storage are to keep the battery pack fully charged in a dry and cool place, out of the charger. There is no mention about the need of regular recharge, I wonder if this is an assumption based on their experience with previously defective packs or an actual recommendation from Dewalt.

I'd be interested to know the definitive answer too but I am 98% sure that it is not the case. He probably just copied the description text of the greenworks 40v chainsaw. Greenworks 82/80/60/40/24 batteries have a lot of clones (kobalt, powerworks, cramer, briggs and stratton, stiga, masport, victa), all manufactured by Globe tools group. Despite looking exactly the same, sharing the same design and coming from the same factory, they are not compatible among brands. Well that's not entirely true, In fact they are, but you can't insert a Kobalt battery in a Greenworks tool and vice versa unless you start grinding the guiding rails. If even blatant clones are designed to be incompatible, I would not expect any out-of-the-box compatibility between Greenworks and Dewalt.

Can you post a link to the models you are considering? Or at least name the brand you are referring to?

I guess he is referring to the GBB 700, which is part of their so-called "commercial" 82v platform. Greenworks is a world champion in terms of incompatible battery systems, I hope Dewalt will not go down that route.

Because they read reviews and watch videos that tend to prove otherwise? 🤔

Hello, I noticed that every greenworks tool I come across on Amazon has this warning message It is also present on their official US site with even less information. https://www.greenworkstools.com/shop-by-tool/mowers/21-inch-self-propelled-brushless-lawn-mower And at Walmart: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Greenworks-20-Inch-40V-G-MAX-Cordless-Lithium-Ion-2-in-1-Twin-Force-Lawn-Mower-Batteries-Included-25302/37468338 But I could not find any detail or explanation, does anyone know more?

The tools have not yet been announced but the PDF catalog has already been updated to its 2019 version. https://egopowerplus.co.uk/sites/default/files/2018-12/42788_UK_EGO Trade Bro_A4_96pp_2019_AW_LR-compressed_0.pdf Among the recent additions : New options for the multi tool system (cultivator, short hedge trimmers) Two smaller mowers adapted to small yards (46cm and a SP variant), but nothing with dual battery option yet A new blower that replaces the 5750, 5800E (probably the european version of the US model that has been released last year) A standalone trimmer (ST1530E) with more RPM (7000), less vibration and counter-clockwise rotation compared to the ST1500. (could in fact correspond to the multi-tool with trimmer attachment) A standalone trimmer with powerload head, ST1510E, no mention of a carbon fiber shaft A professional trimmer with a D grip. 12v grass shears (introduction of a new compact battery system?)

Since you are looking for a vertical crankshaft engine (gxXXX without "v" are all horizontal), I don't think there is any option beside the gxv160. Is the kawasaki option a FJ180v? If so, that's a very respectable choice too.

Explains why DUC252z is on sale at the local shop. They are probably clearing old stock.

Quite frankly, I don't remember if it was 54v, 58v or 56v, at some point the rumor said it would be somewhere around ~60. Anyway, it's something bigger than X2. Sure, but I really like to idea of being able to power a 18v drill, a 36v chainsaw and a couple of high demanding OPE tools such as a 54v SP mower or a large backpack blower with the same batteries. Requiring as many as 6 or 8 packs for continuous operation might be difficult to sell, but having access to the wide range of 18v and 36v tools could compensate for that.