framer Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 Is this nailer purposely made a little heavy to counter the momentum of the driving blade? Just from looking at this gun, there seems to be places where weight could have been shaved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 I think it's relative to the actual motor as opposed to the air system which doesn't need it. I've got the 692 and it is awesome. I've had it a couple of years now and have had a couple of jams but only a couple. Fantastic nailer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 On another note the kick isn't too bad with this gun. The weight certainly helps with it. Not a fun gun to hang from a 1-1/2" belt though ?. You know, unless you want to look like a plumber? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Framer joe Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Really it's the same weight as an air gun....forget the specs...put a hose on a framing gun and it's the same....it holds 1.5 racks of paslode nails vs 2 plus racks on an air gun......that kinda sucks and paper nails do get wet vs wire nails.....but the gun is bad ass dependable, no lie. ......I'm in business to make money, lots..if there was anything better,faster, more dependable...I'd buy it...I love Dewalt but I love making money more...tools make me money..money let's me help family,friends,neighbors god... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framer Posted July 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 I guess I'm just a little spoiled by the paslode cordless. And my only reason to try the Dewalt is because of fuel cell cost. I don't use air nailers at all. Whole buildings using paslode cordless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Framer joe Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 No kidding all cordless ? We couldn't frame walls fast enough with those paslodes or Dewalt cordless...gotta have max air for many guns running....plus what do you nail sheathing with ? @framer Because mass code is .131 coil nails..and there are no cordless coolers......I do love the paslode, but the Dewalts are as good or better and definitely cheaper to use...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framer Posted July 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 After you have fired hundreds of thousands of nails with a paslode cordless, you get really fast with them! Here in Illinois where I'm at, inspectors have never questioned what nails I've used. Typically use 3x.131 and 3x120 for studs. And 2 3/8 for sheeting. And why do you have to use coil nails? They don't allow the full head paslode nails? Or don't they like how the head is offset? I use to use bostich coil nailers when I first started. Mainly for sheeting since you didn't have to reload frequently. I hated those nailers. Heavy and bulky. Can't really toe nail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Framer joe Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Can't use 3" nails for framing in MA..min 3 1/4 by .131 but 3 1/2" by .131 preferred..and sheathing (ply) min .131 by 2 1/4" full head .....paslode 2 3/8" are .113 and smaller heads...inspectors know what you used by head size....also sheets are nailed ..6" on center in the field and 3" on seams...plus two rows of 3" staggered on the bottom and top of sheets....so loading a paslode gun that many times would kill productivity even if they shot a .131 / 2 3/8" nail.....gotta use coil guns.....I like bostich guns...and they are heavy as shit.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framer Posted July 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Why are they so strict with the nails? Are you near the coast? Get a lot of wind there? Sounds like something I'd hear from Florida near the coast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Framer joe Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 I'm on cape cod.....toughest codes I've heard of.... vertical sheathing only.....inspectors literally measure between nails to pass the house,,..1 spot on 1 wall exceeding the space required could fail inspection,,,holding up further work....we use hold downs(hdu16) on every floor ,floor to floor with vertical rods connecting them.....foundation to roof must be connected by metal not just nails.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jronman Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Framer joe said: No kidding all cordless ? We couldn't frame walls fast enough with those paslodes or Dewalt cordless...gotta have max air for many guns running....plus what do you nail sheathing with ? @framer Because mass code is .131 coil nails..and there are no cordless coolers......I do love the paslode, but the Dewalts are as good or better and definitely cheaper to use...... hmm... Maybe someone should create a screwgun that can screw as fast as a nailer can nail and include enough MORE POWA tm to work with framing screws. Would also have collated attachment so you could have strings of screws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zinzander Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Do US framing nails have to be round heads? I have never seen a paslode that doesn't shoot 90mm nails which are the standard framing size where I live and is slightly over 3 1/2, but those are D heads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framer Posted July 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 3 hours ago, zinzander said: Do US framing nails have to be round heads? I have never seen a paslode that doesn't shoot 90mm nails which are the standard framing size where I live and is slightly over 3 1/2, but those are D heads Some areas of the US require full head nails for better pull out resistance. Usually coastal areas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Framer joe Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Gotta be full head nails...no " clip head " nails.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builditguy Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 It is heavy. I was nailing bracing in trusses the other day. It's heavy, over your head. Of course I'm older now, than when I was going after it. I still choose the DeWalt over an air nailer. Who knows about the weight. It may be the same or close, but it feels heavier. The fact is, I can grab the DeWalt, walk from the truck to the work, and start nailing. Batteries last more than long enough. We used one battery for a day and a half. When it went dead, my son said exactly what I was thinking, "I was just wondering how long that battery was going to last." Day and a half. Switched batteries in less than 60 seconds. Back to work. Now, I'm not knocking Paslode. I like them. Sold all of them, but I still like them. I got tired of the fuel cells running out of propane. This was mostly due to operator error, but it was something I had to deal with. I still like the Paslode. Of course I sold all of them. Still recommend them, but battery only is better. Heavy. Feels heavy. Maybe I'm getting old, but I still have to shoot nails, even when I'm old. Still lighter than dragging a hose and compressor around. I wouldn't recommend a battery only nailer for production work. Really needs to be an air nailer. Will shoot all day without a hiccup. For remodeling or small framing, battery will work everyday. Personally I would stop at a garage. Anything bigger, air nailer. Personal preference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jronman Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 In the gen 2 DeWALT battery nailers the main focus should be size reduction and speed increase and still be reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrosBros82 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Thensize thing isn't a huge deal to me personally, I would just like to see them shoot a little quicker with mofe consisistency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framer Posted July 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 one thing i really dont like is the hook. i always have my paslode hanging on my hammer loop. with the dewalt, i need to turn the nailer around to hang off my right side. really sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Framer joe Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 I'm happy it has a hook .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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