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I wasn't having a go, just pointing out how little electrical knowledge some people have. I guess it's understandable, plenty of subjects I'd have little knowledge of.

Very easy for you to say, but nearly all of the non-electrical tradies I know have no electrical knowledge AT ALL! It's worrying at times, considering the amount of 240 Volt power that's used on smaller sites.

Sorry to hear about your loss. I was done last year, popped the van open on my drive and cleaned me out. I doubt these innovations are going to help, the middle men will soon figure out how to remove it from the tool. However, if it's all part of one piece of electronics that's resin filled, then it may prove not worth their while. Tossers, utter tossers. (Trying to keep my language clean.)

Wasn't suggesting you get an M28, looks like they're dropping that range anyway. However, the M18 sds offers the same impact energy as far as my research goes. So far my gut is saying the Milwaukee offerings are definitely better quality. The 9 Amp packs are definitely a bonus too. I've recently managed to get a Bosch 36 Volt, but not had the chance to really use it yet.

I can't actually afford a wallet!

For quality of machine I'd have to give it to Milwaukee. I have an M28 sds and it's a great machine, a little too powerful to be honest. Its impact energy of 4.1 joules leads to snapped chisel tips on a regular basis, I've broken three before lunch on occasion! I also have the DeWalt 323 sds, this is 54 Volts, but only 2.8 joules of impact energy. Does a great job and I do like it, but my chisel and drill bits are starting to wobble in the chuck which suggests poor quality steel in the drill, but I'm no expert. Only had that for approximately four months. There are two others in the 54 Volt line-up, the 333 and 343, both have 3.5 joules of impact energy. If I think of anything else I'll pop back. Hope this helps.

I guess that's possible, but they're always going with the cheaper option. I think you'd need at least one manufacturer to start including that and then hopefully others would follow suit.

7 Amp packs, everybody's on the up with capacity.

Some very interesting reading in this thread! Do carry on, as long as the OP doesn't mind?

Easily done, but far too expensive. Then there's the issue of durability, most people I know are quite heavy handed with their kit, I can't see screens on batteries lasting long.

All manufacturers should use five bars, four green and one red. It'd cost nothing to implement and give far more accuracy on battery state.

I've recently heavily invested in both red, yellow and blue. Yellow is proving disappointing in tolerances, there's too much wobble in the 887 and the 323. The M28 is just stunning, but sadly looks like it's about to be dropped altogether. Haven't had the chance to really push the blue offerings yet. As said previously, no harm in having different platforms. Milwaukee are quite rightly criticised for trying to do everything from one voltage, if they do drop their 28 Volt range, I'll probably drop them.

Surely you can only patent the name and not the tech?

I'll try to get a pic, could take a while.

I'm 99% certain it was a Makita, but I'm failing to find a pic. I'll have to trawl through the DVDs to find it, then grab a screenshot. Whoever was first to name Makita can pose the next question.

KITT was the car, I remember it well.

I'm struggling here, but what make of drill was used in a lame attempt to drill through the bodywork of KITT in the original series of Kightrider? (Yup, a quick trip back to my childhood.)

Cheers. If anyone else has a question, just jump in.

Oi! I am a sparks!

I don't buy bit sets from anyone, just buy the bits I use regularly in bulk. As for Philips or Pozi, I find both just as good as each other, but you gotta have the right bit! Torx seem ok, but I'd wager their a pita to remove once they've been in for a while and are full of crap. Philips and Pozi can be cleaned out fairly easily. Slot screws should be banned!

Ingersoll Rand?

I doubt it too, plenty of people claim numbers are pumped up by all manufacturers. The industry really needs a proper system in place to actually measure these machines.

Ryobi claim 220nM, nice tool for the price.

Just finished a stint with the Bosch GSB 36v VF LI, awesome sds drill!

Hopefully I won't have to go that far, but there are certain people I won't lend to. I only take what I need to each job, then I know I'm telling the truth when I say I haven't got what they need. I don't like doing it, but this stuff ain't cheap and they don't respect the fact that they're using someone else's kit.