SDS Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Have not heard anything about these yet? Did anyone else know they were on the radar? DEWALT® Launches 20V MAX* Rotary Lasers New green and red beam lasers provide long battery life and durability New Britain, CT — DEWALT® unveils three new 20V MAX* Rotary Lasers with one green rotary and two red rotaries. The 20V MAX* Series runs on a 20V MAX* Lithium-Ion Battery Platform providing users with the convenience of rechargeable power tool batteries. Providing functionality for fixed or mobile usage and vertical or horizontal orientation, a removable 5/8” Thread Adaptor with side and bottom ports allows for the rotary lasers to attach with dual orientation to a tripod or bracket. Improved drop test ratings from 1 meter industry standards to 2 meters, provide enhanced durability for primary use on tripods and fall heights. The 20V MAX* Rotary Lasers have scan modes in 15°, 45°, and 90° with speed settings of 150, 300, 600, and 1,200 rpm. All models come standard in DEWALT® TSTAK® Storage Case (DWST17816) for additional functionality [this sentence does not make sense]. Included with the DEWALT® 20V MAX* Rotary Laser are a 12V MAX**/20V MAX* charger, 2 Ah 20V MAX* batteries, detector, ceiling bracket, glasses, and a target card. Models DW079LR and DW079LG also include a remote control. The DEWALT® 20V MAX* Rotary Laser—model DW074LR—is a red beam rotary laser made of a durable design that features over-molded handles, 2 meter drop protection withstanding a 6ft drop, and IP54 water/debris resistance. Accuracy is +/- 1/8” at 100 ft. The laser provides an interior range of 150 ft. or an exterior range of 1,500 ft. with the use of a detector. The DEWALT® 20V MAX* RED Rotary Tough Laser—model DW079LR—is a red beam rotary that features a dual slope capacity and an improved IP67 water/debris resistance while still allowing for 2 meters drop protection. The RED Rotary Tough Laser also provides improved accuracy of +/- 1/16” at 100 ft. The RED Rotary Tough Laser an interior range of 250 ft. or an exterior range of 2,000 ft. with the use of a detector. The DEWALT® 20V MAX* GREEN Rotary Tough Laser—model DW079LG—features all of the benefits of the RED Rotary Tough Laser, but the rotary line and up/down plumb spots are green beam technology for enhanced visibility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Interesting. Probably a good move to try to merge 12v stuff into 20v. They've shown little regard for 12v and with FlexVolt coming out they ought to streamline a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Your kidding right?? They just released the 12v lasers, make people buy into 12v and now they come out with 20v? Classic Dewalt right there leaving, Milwaukee may be more money for stuff but at least I don't keep shelling out cash for multiple battery platforms lol Jimbo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth Denmark Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercorarius Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Yeah f*** DeWalt! First they outdate my plumb bob and string lines and now this shit?! Quit improving technology you pricks! This puts the last nail in the coffin, I'm moving to Milwaukee's vast array of lasers? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercorarius Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 So many options to choose from..... Who are we kidding Bosch is where it's at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Sorry guys. Dewalts really hitting some nails on the heads now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Adam Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 52 minutes ago, ChrisK said: Sorry guys. Dewalts really hitting some nails on the heads now! They have a 20V hammer??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyMcGrath Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Yup. Typical. I'm really pissed it appears they may scratch the 40v line already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Yup. Typical. I'm really pissed it appears they may scratch the 40v line already. Wow... Didn't think it would happen like that but I knew it might happen when I saw the 60v chainsaw Jimbo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The.Handyman Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 36 minutes ago, RickyMcGrath said: Yup. Typical. I'm really pissed it appears they may scratch the 40v line already. DeWalt stated they are not scratching the 40v platform. It is a dedicated battery platform for the OPE equipment. Look at the size of the 40v battery to the 60v, it is a monster. It is specifically developed to handle high demand OPE equipment. This was all stated to various people who attended the DeWalt event. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Been waiting to upgrade my little baby laser level for 10 years now (stanley) which has served me well...I want that green one on the tripod in the background. So pretty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgrrr Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 this makes sense to me. i always thought that the 12v lasers just didnt seem good enough for outdoor jobs like surveying a backyards for pools and patios. they seem alot more for indoor jobs then anything. i would love to use the 12v to install cabinets quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy MSG Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 On 6/29/2016 at 9:46 AM, JimboS1ice said: Your kidding right?? They just released the 12v lasers, make people buy into 12v and now they come out with 20v? Classic Dewalt right there leaving, Milwaukee may be more money for stuff but at least I don't keep shelling out cash for multiple battery platforms lol Jimbo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You have already left. Even though you did a test of hammer drills and the DeWALT was about 10% faster than the Milwaukee. You quit DeWALT because of their multiple battery platforms. You hate them, you are taking your toys and going home. You can save yourself some time and not even complain about them any more. If I were to ask why does Milwaukee have 12 volt chargers and 18 volt chargers instead on one that does both, or perhaps ask why you need circular saws in both 12 and 18 volts, I would probably catch some fecal matter for such thoughts or questions. So I won't ask those questions, because I don't have any of the their cordless tools ( but in no uncertain terms am I giving up my Tilt-Lock corded circular saw). I will admit I have a tool addiction, but I try to be very pragmatic in my purchases. I want one or two battery platforms, my old 18V DeWALTs are relatively low milage, so chances are they will be around for another 10 years, with replacement or overhauled batteries to extend their life. I did pick up a few 12V Max tools a drill and impact kit and later a driver with clutch and 1/4" hex shank holder, which I use more often than an impact now. I picked them up because the price was great and I wanted compact and lightweight. I could have as easily bought Milwaukee, but I don't really need all the other stuff they sell and the chargers I have now will work with the 20V Max should I ever buy the tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 Constructive criticism is ok. If we didn't get to complain this board would be ridiculously boring. Dewalt reps should be able to easily find complaints about running half a dozen systems so going forward the next big idea in a boardroom isn't a new battery system lol. If people didn't complain Milwaukee wouldn't have fixed their gen one stand lights, and would still think their nailers are godly. Makita would still deny they had a battery problem. My opinion; Dewalt's 12v system is a stepchild they no longer want to have in family pictures. Their FlexVolt backwards compatibility is a step in the right direction. Milwaukee has a 12v saw because their 12v system is for the most part complete enough for some people to stay within exclusively. When you look at other manufacturer's 12v lines often all you see if a drill, impact, maybe a jig saw. Be grumpy at tool companies for duping people into buying shit, then releasing what they should have put out the first time around a year later; don't get mad at crew for calling them out on it lol. In that pic earlier, those big boxy brutes remind me of some Hilti's I've seen on sites. I have to imagine these Dewalt's will be priced far more economically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 You have already left. Even though you did a test of hammer drills and the DeWALT was about 10% faster than the Milwaukee. You quit DeWALT because of their multiple battery platforms. You hate them, you are taking your toys and going home. You can save yourself some time and not even complain about them any more. If I were to ask why does Milwaukee have 12 volt chargers and 18 volt chargers instead on one that does both, or perhaps ask why you need circular saws in both 12 and 18 volts, I would probably catch some fecal matter for such thoughts or questions. So I won't ask those questions, because I don't have any of the their cordless tools ( but in no uncertain terms am I giving up my Tilt-Lock corded circular saw). I will admit I have a tool addiction, but I try to be very pragmatic in my purchases. I want one or two battery platforms, my old 18V DeWALTs are relatively low milage, so chances are they will be around for another 10 years, with replacement or overhauled batteries to extend their life. I did pick up a few 12V Max tools a drill and impact kit and later a driver with clutch and 1/4" hex shank holder, which I use more often than an impact now. I picked them up because the price was great and I wanted compact and lightweight. I could have as easily bought Milwaukee, but I don't really need all the other stuff they sell and the chargers I have now will work with the 20V Max should I ever buy the tools. Yes I did "quit" dewalts cordless tools but I can still react to releasing tools they just released in a different platform. These days when you buy a drill your not just buying a drill, for many of us non addicts your locking yourself into a line up so someone who isn't as keen as us on tools can drop some major cash on a tool combo and that's the only line they'll ever have. As for Milwaukee my chargers have both 12v and 18v in one charger, now the slots are not the same. Look at makita, they just bailed on their stock lacks for 12v and although we don't talk about it that is a huge bummer for stick pack users because they're left behind. Maybe I've been over the top because I've been pissed off a little but wouldn't you be upset if you paid 500 bucks for a laser and 6 months later they release one that works on the batteries you already got laying around. I may have sold my tools, but I didn't sell my rights to have opinions on them. Grumpy Jimbo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercorarius Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 Think of it not as them bailing on 12v users but of them giving 20v users an option on their lineup so they don't have to invest in the 12v lineup. They are literally giving you all the options on one platform. You can't be upset at them both branching out into other battery lines and them providing a more unified battery platform. You get mad at one or the other but not both. Or am I missing something obvious here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildroamer Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 1 hour ago, JimboS1ice said:ao I may have sold my tools, but I didn't sell my rights to have opinions on them. Grumpy Jimbo If I want your opinion I'll give it to you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 Think of it not as them bailing on 12v users but of them giving 20v users an option on their lineup so they don't have to invest in the 12v lineup. They are literally giving you all the options on one platform. You can't be upset at them both branching out into other battery lines and them providing a more unified battery platform. You get mad at one or the other but not both. Or am I missing something obvious here? I wouldn't say I'm mad, just if I bought into a 12v laser having 20v batteries I would be irritated, it's like buying a 2015 car then the next year they put a bigger engine Jimbo Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 It's not upsetting that they give both systems the same items; that's good. It's that they put it in the half-assed system first rather than the more common system. Many people wanting said items would have got 12v batteries as well, instead of waiting a year and not needing more batteries. That said, I don't have any 12v Max and likely never will. Milwaukee, Bosch and now Makita all have much more well rounded systems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Glassey Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 I wouldn't say I'm mad, just if I bought into a 12v laser having 20v batteries I would be irritated, it's like buying a 2015 car then the next year they put a bigger engine Jimbo Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Hey Jimbo try the same year they put in a bigger engine, see how pissed you can get then. A--holes at ford. Sorry. John, Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk[emoji848] 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 Hey Jimbo try the same year they put in a bigger engine, see how pissed you can get then. A--holes at ford. Sorry. John, Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk[emoji848] Lol yea when they do the 2016.5 models Jimbo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Glassey Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 Lol yea when they do the 2016.5 models Jimbo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk No in 2010 when I bought the Raptor! Being impatient as I am. I had to have it right away, and payed the price. Got in January, 3 months later they switched from the 5.4 to the 6.2 ltr engines. They went from 330 hp to 410 hp. For that heavy of truck it made the difference. John, Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk[emoji848] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 No in 2010 when I bought the Raptor! Being impatient as I am. I had to have it right away, and payed the price. Got in January, 3 months later they switched from the 5.4 to the 6.2 ltr engines. They went from 330 hp to 410 hp. For that heavy of truck it made the difference. John, Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk[emoji848] They do that quite frequently, my dad sold fords for a lot of years and has been in the car business a long time, they call those half year models when they change them, burns a lot of customers, that truck should have had a big motor to begin with Jimbo Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 There's a reason Dewalt rep trucks are Fords. Same playbook. (Kidding; Milwaukee uses Fords too...the lease deals are too hard to pass up; frees up more money for marketing). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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