marsh942 Posted July 30, 2016 Report Posted July 30, 2016 I have the DTD148 and love it but feel like I need a smaller driver (non-impact) for more fine/intricate work. The festool appeals to me with the centrotec attachments that seem very easy to use and well thought out BUT the little Brushless Makita DF032 looks the bees knees and I'd imagine Makita are really going to expand the 12v line whereas Festool probably won't add anything to the little 10.8v lineup, would you guys agree? Which would you think would be the better purchase? The Festool retails for $415 AUD with 3 attachments, 2 batteries, charger and systainer. The Makita isn't out in Oz yet but I can purchase and get it sent to me from family in the UK. Would cost $110 AUD without batteries/charger or postage. The Makita batteries are $41 for 1.5ah, $50 for 2.0ah and $89 for 4.0ah. Fast charger is $100 approx. Look forward to your replies [emoji106]! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
Bremon Posted July 30, 2016 Report Posted July 30, 2016 Personally, the specs and feel etc. of a tool will get me interested, the depth of the system/what I will branch out to will get me wanting to pull the trigger on it, and the quality of service will seal the deal. I have Milwaukee, Dewalt, Makita, Hilti, etc. service centres all within about 20 mins from home or work. There is no Festool depot that I'm aware of here. Just something to potentially consider. Quote
DR99 Posted July 30, 2016 Report Posted July 30, 2016 Most of the time except of Hilti your turn around at service center will be about the same as mailing the tool in for warranty service 1 Quote
marsh942 Posted July 30, 2016 Author Report Posted July 30, 2016 Yeah that's not an issue really. Warranty returns etc are general pretty good in this area. Had a few things go back from both companies and had it back in decent time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
Logan Posted July 30, 2016 Report Posted July 30, 2016 Festool is great with woodworking and the intricate work and is probably better then the makita in that area but festool probably won't expanded their line at least not as fast and as many tools as Mikita would Quote
ChrisK Posted July 30, 2016 Report Posted July 30, 2016 Well unlike these jamokes I have the CXS Best drill I've ever used. Period. Now....to answer your question. I would recommend without a single doubt, go Makita (answering your question about brands, there are certainly more brands out there to go with) My CXS like the one your looking at has all of the centrotec system chucks and undoubtably the centrotec system is the best but it's a stand alone tool. No 10.8 impacts or saws and I haven't heard that they would consider changing or adding. I am pretty well ensconced in the Centrotec system though and my main drill is the T18 and I have the installers kit plus a bunch of zobos and centrotec brads. If your looking for a 12v / 10.8v line I hate to say it but you might want to look elsewhere. If your looking for a tool for installation work with multiple options on the same tool is highly recommend the CXS. Just remember the limitations of not having saws and the like in the 10.8 realm. Quote
kornomaniac Posted July 30, 2016 Report Posted July 30, 2016 Chris nailed it I guess. If you only want a drill driver and the Centrotec attachment are a must then the Festool is your option. If you want a more compact solution , more power and the ability to expand then the Makita is the best option Knowing Makita the 12v CXT line will have 50+ tools in a year or 3 Quote
ChrisK Posted July 30, 2016 Report Posted July 30, 2016 37 minutes ago, kornomaniac said: Chris nailed it I guess. If you only want a drill driver and the Centrotec attachment are a must then the Festool is your option. If you want a more compact solution , more power and the ability to expand then the Makita is the best option Knowing Makita the 12v CXT line will have 50+ tools in a year or 3 Whoa whoa whoa Korno...... Festool is still wayyyyyyy better;) 1 Quote
dirlammen Posted July 30, 2016 Report Posted July 30, 2016 I usually reserve my festool buys for items that are only available from festool, where no other top manufacturer produces a comparable product. I have a full rebate planner from festool, because I could not get a full rebate from anyone else. I also have the festool PlaneX sander system, for sanding dywall and walls, which I did not see anyone else selling (at least no one i knew). And I expect I will probably buy a Domino pretty soon, because no one else makes a slot mortiser. But if Bosch or Makita makes it, I will by it from them instead. I feel with Festool you are paying Mafell or Hilti prices and getting Makita quality. Unless, the Festool you are buying comes from its European Protools (techtonics) designes( Festool bought out Protools), protools are super Skucoom. Quote
jeffmcmillan Posted July 30, 2016 Report Posted July 30, 2016 Makita 12V isn't that different from 18V as far as tool handling for intricate work whereas the cxs was designed for it. Quote
kornomaniac Posted July 30, 2016 Report Posted July 30, 2016 1 hour ago, jeffmcmillan said: Makita 12V isn't that different from 18V as far as tool handling for intricate work whereas the cxs was designed for it.designe What would ' tool handling' mean then ? In what ways do you notice it being ' designed for it ' ? Honest question. Haven't used a cxs yet. 1 Quote
jeffmcmillan Posted July 30, 2016 Report Posted July 30, 2016 49 minutes ago, kornomaniac said: What would ' tool handling' mean then ? In what ways do you notice it being ' designed for it ' ? Honest question. Haven't used a cxs yet. It allows a drywall gun style grip which puts your hand inline with the bit while being slim enough to grip it well. That means everything stays aligned even with a lot of pressure on the bit so no stripped screws, no broken bits, and no misaligned parts. Combine that with the centrotec system and it just exudes precision. It's pretty interesting how the L vs T handle designs change how you put pressure on the bit. I just wish L handle was a more common option outside of drywall guns. 1 Quote
marsh942 Posted July 31, 2016 Author Report Posted July 31, 2016 Although I'm a Makita man, the m12 line up is good, although the drill drivers are not as compact they do seem to be good quality. Hmmmm Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
JimboS1ice Posted July 31, 2016 Report Posted July 31, 2016 Although I'm a Makita man, the m12 line up is good, although the drill drivers are not as compact they do seem to be good quality. Hmmmm Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The new Makita 12v line is starting to look promising Jimbo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
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