firefighter4187 Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 I have been playing around with different tool bag setups and realized now, that a good set of nut drivers( which i dont have) is a must. What are you guys using?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 I had a full set of Klein drivers. I sold them off a few months back because I didn't use them much. Klein pretty much rules the net driver market though. I'd either go with them or one of the German brands like Wiha or Wera. I do recommend a cushioned grip though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter4187 Posted June 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 What do you think about the new milwaukee nut drivers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 They look really nice. I haven't used them, but my experience with Milwaukee hand tools has been positive. Dan is a big fan of their hand tools. I'd say they're worth considering, but again, no person experience to fall back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyandy Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 I love my klein! The milwaukee to me are kind of cheap feeling. I dont like their handles it feels like a cheap dollar store screw driver in my hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR99 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Yea I read a lot of sparkies are running away from Klein to Wera and Whia. I have some Klein tools that work great. I learned my lesson on cheap wire strippers cut my forehead open from the force to strip the wire, and the worst part was I was going to pick up the Klein wire strippers but I decided not too because I was all most done with the project. The Milwaukee hallow core nut drivers do look interesting though for guys that need that kind of driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 All the Klein drivers are hollow shaft. Works good for long screws, stacked circuit boards, etc. I recommend making sure whatever drivers you buy have hollow shafts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter4187 Posted June 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Ok Thanks for the info guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe M Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Milwaukee is coming out with hollow shafts as well, saw it on another tool review website. I will be honest, I was disappointed in the feel of the 6 in 1 stubby klein screwdriver I bought. It works well, but the grip feels cheap for a klein product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 Milwaukee is coming out with hollow shafts as well, saw it on another tool review website. I will be honest, I was disappointed in the feel of the 6 in 1 stubby klein screwdriver I bought. It works well, but the grip feels cheap for a klein product.That's because it is. It's made in China like a lot of other Klein products as of late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyandy Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 I still love my klein stuff haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter4187 Posted June 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 I still love my klein stuff hahaWho makes the best insulated stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 I have a bunch of Proto insulated stuff (big surprise huh). Klein is by far the biggest name in electrical tools, however, I personally feel Klein is headed down hill. They still make their core products here, but the number of import tools seems to grow all the time. When this shit started I emailed Klein and got a standard line bullshit response about how "advances in Asian manufacturing processes have afforded Klein the opportunity to offer their professional customers the quality they demand, at a lower price point than ever before" and assured me "it was necessary to remain competitive on certain items and that Klein had never closed a US manufacturing facility". YET I'm guessing. I don't know what all this "price point" shit is about, but I haven't noticed Klein tools at lowered prices. I'm a COO guy, I admit that, and while I'm all about American made tools, I do understand that Asian tools aren't always crap and they do have they're place. I own a few Asian made items, hell, I like some of them (Tekton comes to mind), but I'm not paying $15 for a fucking screwdriver or $35-$40 for a pair of pliers that have "Made in China", Taiwan, or any damn place except the United fucking States of America! I will make occasional exceptions for european made tools such as Germany, England, France, and Spain, as they aren't made as cheaply as possible by helpless citizens who are exploited as a people for profit and whose places of employment have a suicide rate significant enough to require suicide counter measures. If the item is something I need on occasion but can't afford or justify the price of a professional brand, I expect it to be priced accordingly. If I'm buying Asian pliers I expect them to be $10. Klein expects me to pay USA prices for Asian made tools and it just isn't happening. Now that that's over, Facom (a French professional brand owned by Stanley/Proto) has a tremendous selection of insulated tools including sockets, ratchets, combo and service wrenches, and just about everything else you can think of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Oh, I almost forgot! During my internet tool related travels, I ran across a guy who worked for Klein. He claims that the previous owner (a generation of the Klein family) was a tool guy and was committed to keeping quality at a premium and USA made the standard. According to this fellow, he was forced out by other family interest who were concerned with maximizing profits and were willing to reduce quality to do it. He felt that his days with the company were numbered and feared a more significant move to Asia was inevitable. Is he right or is he full of shit? I can't say, but it was the only contact from inside the company I have to go on other than the bullshit customer service form letter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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