fm2176 Posted May 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 On 5/10/2023 at 7:46 AM, Eric - TIA said: OH wow, that is a sweet looking gun. It looks good but I'd say is probably best suited for its namesake: snakes. A coworker had some extra pest control shot shells, so he gave me a box. I'll check the shelves and back stock later to see if we got more in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fm2176 Posted May 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2023 On 5/10/2023 at 7:46 AM, Eric - TIA said: OH wow, that is a sweet looking gun. Carried it in my overalls chest pocket yesterday, while doing yard work. My wife showed me a picture of a 4-5' long snake that was on the property a few days ago. I don't enjoy killing things and have a basic knowledge of poisonous snakes, but am no herpetologist, so the revolver was on me for its namesake, just in case I crossed paths with it and deemed it a threat. A coworker gave me some .22 Long Rifle varmint shot since we have yet to be restocked. We did have some .38 Special and .45 ACP shotshells, so I picked up a box of the former. I'm not sure how well the shotshells will run in my Para Ordnance so I'll stick to revolver calibers. The other Barkeep I picked up a while back is this one: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric - TIA Posted May 23, 2023 Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 I am with you and don't like killing things, well unless I am going to eat it or it is a threat, like a snake. That's a great-looking gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fm2176 Posted July 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 No new guns...I'm taking a brief hiatus from gun buying to afford the 64-gun Cabelas by Liberty safe. One of the perks of my job is a 50% discount, so with tax and delivery it should come in under $2k. In the next year I'll probably add a couple of smaller 33 or 48 gun safes. I learned from my first gun safe that they are mostly useful as deterrents and for fire protection. The electronic lock failed, and it took about 15 minutes with a breaker bar, pry bar, and 4lb hammer to get into the approximately 550lb 36-gun safe. I recently joined both Gun Owners of America and the Firearms Policy Coalition. I know that some of the TIA Crew probably doesn't see eye-to-eye with me on firearms ownership, especially those from outside of the States, but I'm of the firm opinion that guns in the hands of trained, knowledgeable, and law-abiding Americans are the answer to increasing crime and are key to protecting our loved ones and ourselves. Anyway, just an update, hope everyone is doing well! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric - TIA Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 I see eye to eye with you on gun ownership. I don't always have a lot of feedback when you post hear but only because I am such a novice and need to learn a ton more, but time is tight. One day I will have the time to get more into guns as it's going to be a passion. Always happy when you post to this thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fm2176 Posted July 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 I started this thread because guns are considered tools by many. Law enforcement and security guards carry them to protect others, military personnel carry them in defense of our nation, hunters carry them to procure food and for sport, etc. They're also amazingly precise machines when you get into design and function. I used to go out of my way to break down M240B and M249 machineguns in order to show young Soldiers how open-bolt systems work, and what happens if the sear is damaged or disengaged (runaway gun). My 129-year-old Winchester 1892 and my 121-year-old (IIRC) Mosin-Nagant M1891 are both excellent pieces of design and function for their respective purposes. The 1892 worked well as a complement to the Colt 1873 and other revolvers during the waning years of the Old West. Kind of like my Ruger PC Carbine with its Glock magazine well coupled with one of my Glock pistols, interchangeable cartridges (and magazines for semiautomatic arms) between a sidearm and carbine are nice. Time is tight, and the little knowledge I've gained is from decades of reading about, researching, handling, and of course, owning guns. If I had to share one regret, it's not shooting more while I was in the Army. Ammunition gets expensive, and belt-fed machineguns are a little pricey to own or even rent and require regular maintenance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric - TIA Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 Agree 100% on they are tools by many. Wish I had a 1/10 o the knowledge you have but eventually, I will get there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fm2176 Posted August 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 Christmas time! I got into work this morning and had a price change on a shotgun. Instead of printing a new tag, I figured I'd just buy it and have it for a few months before gifting it to one of my kids. I also went ahead and started paperwork on a Walther P22 for my 15-year-old to train with. Now, I guess I need to get something for my son so he isn't jealous come holiday season. We'll see if I get a Delay. It happens at least 50% of the time; not a big deal since I work there, but it's funny that I'm the ATF compliance guy and still get delayed buying firearms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric - TIA Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 Agree, much easier buying the shotgun than changing tags, that's awesome. Crazy that there is a delay for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fm2176 Posted August 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 4 hours ago, Eric - TIA said: Agree, much easier buying the shotgun than changing tags, that's awesome. Crazy that there is a delay for you. Got a Proceed pretty quickly. From what I understand, it's pretty common for veterans who hold or held a security clearance to be hit or miss when it comes to the FBI NICS (background check) system. The shotgun is a Stevens 320 and ended up being $167 plus tax. Made in China, like so many of our power tools are, but it's a name brand and being a pump action, shouldn't be too bad. I was looking at the same model in 20 gauge for my soon-to-be 25-year-old, and liked the $250 or so price, so getting it for under $200 with tax was a no-brainer. I did finally bring a few handguns in today, so in a few hours I'll be at the range shooting .38 SPL, .357 MAG, and .44 MAG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric - TIA Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 Pump action is awesome. I do not know why, but I have to get myself a pump-action shotgun. Something about them is very cool, just like the old-style lever load for riffles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fm2176 Posted August 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 10:03 AM, Eric - TIA said: Pump action is awesome. I do not know why, but I have to get myself a pump-action shotgun. Something about them is very cool, just like the old-style lever load for riffles. Pump guns are reliable and can digest nearly any ammunition suitable for them. Most home defense 12 gauge guns will come with a 3" chamber that can use those or 2-3/4" shells, while a lot of hunting guns have the option of 3-1/2" chambers for magnum loads packing a bit more power. Then there's the Aguila 1-3/4" Minishells that have a lot less felt recoil and allow a few more shells in the magazine. I have a few, from the Mossberg 590A1 to my go-to police surplus Winchester 1200 Riot, the Winchester SXP I bought on a whim earlier this year, and the Winchester 1897 Riot. They are popular for home defense due to a relative lack of penetration through drywall and other materials combined with stopping power. Honestly, the 20 gauge with modern ammo may be even more suitable than 12 gauge for most, especially smaller statured people or those who can't handle recoil or who have disabilities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fm2176 Posted October 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 I've nearly won the internet, with 2/5ths of the kids fully on-board with guns and the oldest acknowledging that she could use one in her high-crime apartment complex (she's getting the aforementioned Stevens shotgun for home defense). My 15-year-old starts shooting with 4-H later this month, and my sister's kid, whom I've temporarily taken custody of, is interested in shooting despite her insisting that he's scared of guns (he's only four and has a lot of growing to do to become a man...wait, am I allowed to say that in 2023?). I found that the training facility I took my NRA Range Safety Officer courses at offers a combined training package called the "Sentinel Program" for $1150. I'm thinking about enrolling myself and the 15-year-old in it before long, as it's self-paced and we can complete it at our leisure. The NRA Instructor courses and other certifications can come later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric - TIA Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 LOL, I hope we can still say that, but probably not for much longer. That's awesome you have that by you for training. I know we have some stuff by us. I am just in a catch 22. I need to do this with my 15 yr old but finding the time and money is hard, but I need to get my kids out there and be trained. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fm2176 Posted January 26 Author Report Share Posted January 26 I got another cheap shotgun, a Tristar Cobra in 12 gauge for my son. It was around $80 out the door, so despite it being a Tristar, I think I got a deal. Besides, it's a pump gun. I wouldn't necessarily trust any of the cheaper Turkish semi-autos (Tristar, Citadel, etc.), but so long as it goes through the cycles of function, you can generally force it to feed, chamber, and fire. I have no idea if the extractor is up to snuff... that could be a problem. A couple of weeks ago I was back to work after the previous day's 4-H, where I let my daughter shoot her P22Q. That worked less than stellar, though I think it was her grip. We each dumped a mag into the burn pit when we got home, and it worked fine. Regardless, she shoots the loaner Ruger Mark IIIs great, so I might buy her a Mark IV, or if she takes it serious enough and want to try for the Nationals, a Volquartsen Black Mamba. I was itching to buy something, then I stumbled across this practical monstrosity in the Vault: Mossberg 464 SPX. The thing takes some getting used to, but it met one key criteria for me: it's a .30-30. My Winchester 94 .30-30 was stolen over 11 years ago now, leaving me with only the 94 in .45 Colt. Since retiring, I've added the aforementioned 1892 and a .22 LR Rossi Rio Bravo lever gun, and I think one of my Dad's old guns is a single shot lever action 12 gauge. Anyway, I figured that for under $400, I'd give the Mossberg a new home. To be extra funny, I bought a iProtec RM230LSG. I've got one of the red versions for other weapon's systems, and like having some illumination. The laser is an afterthought, but probably not too impractical for a short-range cartridge like the .30-30. As for "practical monstrosity", this is one of those guns that traditional gun owners quickly look away from in fear of being overtaken by some evil force. It's a "tactical lever gun", only if you look beyond the AR-style furniture, it makes some sense. As the above article mentions, it's pretty practical for the modern hunter. Why risk taking granddad's old pre-'64 Model 94 into the swamps when you can take this plastic furniture and all? It's relatively inexpensive, seems rugged, and has some good sights and mounting options. All told, I think it's a decent addition to the safes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric - TIA Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 All I know is that you have one of the best collections I have seen. I am jelous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fm2176 Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 On 1/29/2024 at 1:08 PM, Eric - TIA said: All I know is that you have one of the best collections I have seen. I am jelous. Well, it keeps growing for some reason. I pulled my transfer records a couple of days ago, and in 15 months of working here, I've bought 21 guns. Right now, I need to stop buying, pay off a little debt, and then get another vehicle. But, if something is the right price or unique enough, I'm calling it for myself and doing paperwork ASAP! 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric - TIA Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 15? that is awesome. I hear you about the debt. I have to get going on paying some debt off also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fm2176 Posted May 8 Author Report Share Posted May 8 Since the last update, I've been kind of slacking. I bought an antique Marlin Ballard rifle a few months back, and took advantage of CLUB Mondays (this month, Bass Pro/Cabela's CLUB Mastercard holders get 10% off firearms on Mondays) last week, doing the paperwork on two handguns yesterday. Total cost was $150 with tax: original prices were $50 for one and $125 for the other. No need to be envious, but the guns I just got are two of the finest to ever see the inside of a police evidence locker. To clarify, I don't think mine have, but they are common "street guns" given their price and availability. The Iberia (Hi-Point) JCP-40 is a gun I'd already owned over 25 years ago and got rid of as quickly as I could. The Lorcin .380 is something I never thought I'd own but do now. In the realm of cheap pistols, these take the cake, though the Jennings J-22 I owned for a few months or the .25 (I think it's a Raven Arms) I supposedly have from my dad's stuff (I swear my sister took it, but she insists it's in a tote somewhere around here) are close competitors. Next up is a nearly new S&W M&P-15. An older lady sold us some of her husband's guns last week and is supposed to be coming back with the other half; included were a Mini-14, Century Arms M70 Kalashnikov, and the aforementioned M&P-15. The Kalashnikov has been claimed already, and with a selling price of $300 it's not a bad deal, while I claimed the AR. With tax, it should be a hair over $600. Given the $800 price tag of a new M&P-15, it's a good price, but this one also has a $600 or so EOTech on it, so it's a no-brainer. Granted, I've got my Ruger AR-556 MPR with a SIG Romeo 7 red dot, but I could use another AR-15 at that price. We've been getting a lot of Palmetto State Armory guns in over the past year or so. Their prices are outstanding, and they make new AR and AK platform rifles that seem to be of increasing quality. We got an AK-103 in for a customer this week, and while I can't justify the $1k price tag at the moment, it piqued my interest. Maybe I'll start with one of the @$500 blemish AKs before spending that much. The Norinco NHM-90 I had over 20 years ago was fun to shoot, and the Kalashnikov design has proven itself reliable to an extreme, so it's almost time to add another. Then again, I haven't even looked at the SKS Sporter I bought over a year ago that takes AK mags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric - TIA Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 I have the M&P and like it. The inexpensive guns, how are they, the aim, trigger, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fm2176 Posted May 8 Author Report Share Posted May 8 8 hours ago, Eric - TIA said: I have the M&P and like it. The inexpensive guns, how are they, the aim, trigger, etc. S&W seems to have done well with their modern M&P line of pistols and rifles. Of course, the Military and Police moniker goes back to their M&P revolvers starting in 1899 or so, but when they came up with the modern semi-auto pistols in the mid-2000s, they looked promising for service use. Despite being probably the most prolific service revolver manufacturer, and having the Illinois State Police adopt the Model 39 in 1967 (one of the first major police agencies to adopt a semi-auto pistol), S&W became known for reliable but kind of clunky designs in the interim. I've heard little ill about the M&P-15, and the M&P pistols seem to be pretty solid guns that are in use by some agencies. Of course, Glock, and to a lesser extent SIG Sauer, have all but cornered the market on police service pistols, but the M&P has proved reliable and popular. Like FN's, Beretta's, CZ's, and Glock's offerings (now the G19X with Army-mandated manual safety eliminated), the S&W XM17 trial pistols lost the contract to SIG Sauer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fm2176 Posted June 30 Author Report Share Posted June 30 Just a heads up, the Smith & Wesson M&P Shield EZ Semi-Auto Pistol without Thumb Safety | Bass Pro Shops is currently on sale for $250 (regularly $500) and going fast. We had two of each (with and without thumb safety) a couple of weeks ago and they sold quickly. There are only five of the thumb safety versions available for in-store purchase company-wide, and just over 100 of the ones in the link (two in Chicago, if Eric is in the market), which can still be ordered online. Oh, and the icing on the cake is a $50 S&W rebate. With my military discount and the rebate, the gun I just ordered will cost $198.49. I still need to buy that M&P-15 and am also considering a Winchester 1300 Defender pistol grip firearm. Edited to add: the discount also applies to law enforcement and other first responders with proper ID. A veteran status on your license suffices, as will any credentials showing your status--it doesn't only apply to current and retired personnel. The discount on firearms and ammo is 5%, and 10%v on everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric - TIA Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 That's an awesome deal. I will be by a Bass Pro shop tomorrow, and will check it out. Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fm2176 Posted July 6 Author Report Share Posted July 6 The Shield EZ came in while I had off during the holiday. It's a good thing I didn't hedge my bets for one of the two we had in transit to our store; when I got in yesterday morning both of those were already pegged to get sent out as customer orders. Just over 50 remained in national inventory as of yesterday. Now, I just need to get another magazine or two (it comes with two), as well as a decent holster. I'm tempted to just order a second gun. Mags will be about $40 each with shipping, so for another $120 I can just get a backup. I splurged and bought the Winchester 1300 Defender I'd purchased used a while back as well (similar gun in picture). It was part of the same collection as the M&P-15 I have yet to buy. Did I need it? No, I have at least 20 12-gauge shotguns. But I didn't have a pistol grip firearm, and the Model 1300 marked the last US-produced Winchester shotgun, being a refinement of the Model 1200, of which I have a police surplus Riot version. The SXP is made in Turkey and is based on the 1300. I bought a woodland camouflage home defense version last year. That original 1897 Riot rounds out my 18"-barrel Winchester 12-gauge collection for now. The shotgun fits perfectly in the Cabela's Discreet MSR Case | Cabela's (cabelas.com), making it a potential new road trip gun. The 1200 Riot has been outstanding over the years, but with a full stock it's not exactly easy to get in and out of a room without drawing notice. Some areas I really don't care. Park in front of the room and let all of the local perma-residents (usually druggies) watch as I unload tools and gun-shaped bags from my truck before locking it and barricading myself in the room. Other times (at slightly nicer hotels or areas), I don't want people wondering why I'm making multiple trips and then bringing in long guns. There's a Side Saddle on the gun, providing another six rounds to top off the seven-round magazine... that's one less round than my Mossberg 590A1 but two more than the 1200 or SXP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric - TIA Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 Thanks for the info. What shotgun is that in the picture? When I look up the ones you mentioned above, it just shows full size shotguns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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