Moze Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I'm not sure how long of a comparison this will turn into, but I figured it would be best to start a dedicated thread. This will be to compare the Hilti TE 4-A18 and the DeWalt DCH213 cordless SDS rotary hammers. Primary use is for drilling 3/16" x 2½" (±) holes in concrete & masonry with occasional ½" x 3" holes for concrete anchors. 06.15.12: Purchased DeWalt 20v Max DCH213 Cordless SDS Rotary Hammer with to 20v Max 3.0Ah batteries. I've drilled a few thousand 3/16" holes over a year and a half without issue. Zero complaints. 01.17.14: Purchased Hilti TE 4-A18 Cordless SDS Rotary Hammer with two 21.6v 2.6Ah batteries. Immediate thoughts when comparing the two tools: Weight: If holding with one hand, the tool is noticeably nose-heavy compared to the DeWalt. This likely won't be an issue because once drilling, the front is supported by the bit anyway. The DeWalt weighs in at 7.0 pounds with the 3.0Ah battery. The Hilti weighs in at 7.6 pound with the 2.6Ah battery. Size: The size is virtually identical. The Hilti is approximately ¾" longer and the battery and the body/battery area is noticeably thicker. Features: The DeWalt has a hammer/chisel-only mode, the Hilti doesn't. The DeWalt has an LED light, the Hilti doesn't. The forward/reverse switch on the Hilti is much easier to access and operate than the DeWalt. The switch on the Hilti is directly above the trigger with no obstructions and is about twice the length of the DeWalt. The DeWalt has a 'ledge' between the trigger and the switch that makes it difficult to access and operate. Performance: Too soon to tell. I drilled a few 3/16" holes in a 2" patio paver and it went through great. Drilled a few with the DeWalt and honestly didn't notice any difference. Perhaps the difference (assuming there is one) becomes more noticeable when drilling larger holes. When I get time, my plan is to put both tools head-to-head by drilling a couple dozen 3/16" holes, then a couple dozen 1/4" holes, then a couple dozen 1/2" holes. First, I need to locate a suitable object or material to perform the test in. I don't really want to make Swiss cheese out of my driveway or garage floor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moze Posted January 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Photo comparison: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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firefighter4187 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I am surprised the hilti lacks a led light and chip feature, can't wait to see what happens between these two! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIElectrician Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Once you do your test on your drills I would like to also do a test with my Bosch to see how they compare with these two drills. They just look some much bigger then my drill! I think these drills just eat through cinder block so I think poured concrete would be the best test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moze Posted January 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Once you do your test on your drills I would like to also do a test with my Bosch to see how they compare with these two drills. They just look some much bigger then my drill! I think these drills just eat through cinder block so I think poured concrete would be the best test. I'm uploading a video s we speak. Which Bosch model do you have again...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moze Posted January 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Video review drilling into granite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhBdm3WeUC4&feature=youtu.be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIElectrician Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 I have this one:http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Tools/Pages/BoschProductDetail.aspx?pid=rhh181-01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moze Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Ahhh...that one is pretty. I want it lol. I would love to compare that one to these. I think right now, if I didn't own an SDS and didn't have all of the DeWalt stuff and I had to go buy one....I would get the Bosch. That thing is nice...and only 5.7 pounds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moze Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 And the 36v is only 6.25 pounds! Bosch has their stuff together when it comes to hammer and rotary drills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSionnach Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Nice side by side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIElectrician Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 The 36v Bosch is pretty sweet! The company I work for has one and the thing is pretty smooth in concrete. I'm invested in Bosch so that was one reason I got it, but all the reviews said it was a pretty good all around performer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter4187 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Great video!! The Hilti seems a bit faster imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIElectrician Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 From watching the video it looked like the Dewalt was alittle faster drilling 21 holes in about 1:45 and I the Hilti was about a 1:46 maybe minute 1:47. That is surprising that they were that even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moze Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Yeah, it's hard to time it exactly, but I came up with 1:46 for the Hilti and 1:48 for the DeWalt. I wonder if there would be much of a difference drilling 3" deep in concrete instead of 1¼" granite that's breaking out on the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicholasShetley Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 I wonder which would do better with a larger bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moze Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 I'm going to do another comparison with 1/2" bits once I locate some concrete I can drill up. I've done 1/2" holes with the DeWalt and it was pretty smooth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicholasShetley Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 You could tell the dewalt hit less often but it probably hit harder. I'm suprised they were pretty much even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moze Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Yeah, the DeWalt is 1.7 ft lbs of impact energy, the Hilti is 1.5 ft lbs The DeWalt is 4100 ipm, the Hilti is 5200 ipm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIElectrician Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I think the Hilti would do better with a bigger, longer bit, but I'm still pretty surprised with how close they were. I'm wondering what is coming out at the World of Concrete going on right now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicholasShetley Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 They are having a lot of deals on their website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIElectrician Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I saw that that! I guess there reveal some new stuff this year too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moze Posted January 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 So here's a more telling video. Both rotary hammers drilling with the same 3/16" bits into concrete. I come up with times as follows, using the timer on the video: Hilti: Drilled from: 2:04-4:19Total drilling time: 2 minutes 15 secondsAverage time per hole: 11.25 seconds DeWalt: Drilled from: 4:44-7:36Total drilling time: 2 minutes, 52 secondsAverage time per hole: 14.33 seconds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19iF_4vDV38 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moze Posted January 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Part 3....drilling into concrete with 1/2" bit. DeWalt: Drilled from: 0:40-2:12Total drilling time: 1 minutes, 32 secondsAverage time per hole: 30.66 seconds Hilti: Drilled from: 2:36-3:55Total drilling time: 1 minutes 19 secondsAverage time per hole: 26.33 seconds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN0XFXYhqUE&feature=c4-overview&list=UUm20a1xnKrDbG3ZLpPxemcA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Good research damnyankee, clearly the hilti is slightly better. Not worth switching brands with those numbers. The drilling speed will only matter when having to drill tons of holes at a time. For a few holes here and there you can't go wrong with either one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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