Hugh Jass

Those don't bother me, it's the compact chargers that are worthless. May as well get a 6in square solar panel and stick the wires into the terminals, it would charge faster, lol. I still would like to see the 8ah become the default going forward at least at some point. I would buy a kit for that and that only, otherwise it's bare tools and ebay for me (8ah chargers are $39 there, kind of a no brainer.)

You win for sure, plumbers charge a lot of money to do the same, not even they want to do that.

Those chain breakers are nice unless you're using them just to repair a section of old, weak pipe. Something I refuse to do anymore after my last experience of chasing cracking pipes through a medical office building. I agree it's grueling and messy af.

Chances are it's the shit one then. I'll never understand Dewalt's angle with even producing the shit chargers at all.

Hard to beat Diablo. I'm running a blade, I think it's 40T, that I've had on my 780 for 2 years now. I took it off last year to clean it after building 2 PT decks with it, but the abuse the blade can take and still deliver clean cuts is amazing. I just finished 1500 sqFT of tongue and groove ceiling and the butt joints can't even be seen.

I think I finally gave up around 4 or 5 months. Because of that I still haven't moved to Flexvolt (was going for the grinder kit).

Lol, case in point.

Battery is actually superior, it's just taken until now for it to get there. Mains power is inferior due to amperage limitations that batteries can now surpass. A few years from now high energy cordless tools will be much more powerful than corded. People already report the DWS790 is more powerful off the cord. Right now Dewalt is the only name in the game...which is why we want them to stop dragging their damn caveman feet like it's 39,000 BC.

I think the intent of the argument is based on what one has vs what they want to invest in. For instance, I need a proper lighting solution in spaces where electric isn't hot yet, and I'm actually working in one right now. I've been waiting for Dewalt to have a proper, affordable light solution for these instances. Logically you'd assume that with their being a hole in the platform that everyone else has an answer for, competitively it would drive them to do the same. I've been waiting for that lighting solution for years. In hindsight of course I would have bought into some other solution if I had known but to invest into something and then have them push out a proper product just after my investment means I spent money on something I didn't really want. I could have gone with Miluaukee last year, and now we're just a few months away from Dewalt's copycat. So I'd have crossed platforms to have the same thing...why is that logical? Now you can take this one example and place it across every category on the jobsite. There's got to be a dozen things I've needed for a long time that I haven't bought because I know it's coming down the pipeline. I'm generally happy by what they produce but not knowing it's going to take years to make these basic logical tools is what's so frustrating. Nobody wants buyer's remorse. I think that's what he's saying when he's talking about tools making him money, not just because of performance/simplicity but because he's not buying across multiple platforms just to maintain a uniform increase in productivity, spending much more money in the long run. I could go out tomorrow and buy corded tools for everything pretty much that I want, but if half of those are going to be available in cordless within a year I'm going to go postal for making that decision. Except years go by without some of these ever coming to fruition. The snail's pace for existing tools just to adapt is frustrating. Corded tools are rapidly becoming obsolete. Who wants to buy into that? Not me. And yes the power station is a game changer, but the initial investment to keep that running all day is more than double the cost to be able to cycle batteries in 60v x 2 for the same runtime. Power Station - 8 60v batteries for a complete cycle, the power station, and 4 rapid chargers = $1,765 investment. 120v tool - 4 60v batteries for a complete cycle, two rapid chargers = $716 investment. I think I'll stay inside the box on this one.

What they don't tell you is that you pre order and that's not billed till it ships, but the second you cancel you eat the full price of the "free" tool. I waited for months for CPO to receive shipment of Dewalt that were sitting on shelves at Home Depot the entire time. To me that's not CPO's fault, Dewalt gave massive favoritism to Home Depot and left all of the online retailers hanging like butchered meat, screwing all the contractors who preordered to guarantee their purchase. The whole thing was a clusterfuck that I'll never do again. From now on I'll wait for the retailers to post to Amazon and have it the next day instead for typically the best price available.

Yea I figured when I buy into the flexvolt grinder I'll do it to my old 20v so I have both as well.

Looks like you used them to cut live romex, lol. No wonder.

As in the yellow fast charger? If so that's excellent news!

I love me some torx. I actually think that's worse if you're using a cam-out tip to drive drywall screws, phillips would likely last a lot longer than square. Not may actually set drywall screws one at a time without depth control.

While I hear ya on that, most of what we're looking for already exists. If you want to talk about all new tools with new designs/electronics/ergonomics, etc... sure. Don't be premature, but for the most part what everyone has wanted is already there. We want a 120v Vac. Take the 120v Vac you already have, mount the 120v adapter for 60v batteries you already have, mould them together with a plastic housing, wire the focker and send it. It literally is that simple. Rinse and repeat for practically everything else. We don't need to reinvent the wheel here, this is like taking two lego bricks from two different sets and snapping them together. It just works because it's already designed too, nothing groundbreaking or proprietary needed.

Nah that tower light is AC also.

I use vinyl filler for nails, minimal shrinkage and you can sand it in minutes.

...well, perhaps a poor choice of words but yea not a lot of love for framers. As stated this was a catch-up season with the exception of that saw and the van rack. Neither of these really had strong competition to start outside of the 36v Makita (though I think the blade right flexvolt was said to be more powerful).

If I'm understanding you correctly you can do this with just about any grinder, remove the 4 bolts on the head, rotate 90 degrees and reinsert bolts.

And Dewalt responded in kind by doing the same thing when they brought out their DCL070. $400 for a light is just madness for people that just want a light and not all the other stuff.

I've never used one but I have similar questions, kinda wonder just how sensitive it can be. I use mostly thin caulks like 950A and it's effortless to push, but on occasion something heavy is needed.

...a free 6 is a good deal. If I weren't upgrading to Flex at Christmas I'd do the same but I don't think they have any bare tools that I need from 20v I don't have right now.

...we have been wanting, for a year. Time to start whining. Perhaps you don't understand, but this is the American way. It's not as though we're asking for something fringe or illogical, this is the natural progression and the inevitable one as well. They already have the tools and have already made the technology, slap your existing adapter on your existing tools and push the shit down the aisle, it's not unreasonable when they've been planning this presumably for a few years already since they've got the patents cleared. In the time they engineered the 780 to become the 790, they could have done the same to an entire linup. Dewalt has a team of fast horses that they're always seemingly holding back and finishing in the top 5 but never winning the triple crown. They cut them loose around the track for one lap with the release of flexvolt and now they're pulling back again. It's frustrating to see the potential here and watch their ultra slow sabotage kind of unfold as they maintain a reactionary stance instead of a revolutionary one most of the time (flexvolt clearly being the one and only exception in the last few...well, decades.) It's a bit incomprehensible IMO.

Nah we're going to get a powered wheelbarrow instead.