Dano123

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I see it at live auctions as well. A lot of items go for new or higher prices because people don't know the market. I buy tools at a discount store locally that buys semi loads of new merchandise from stores and sells it super cheap. When they got a load from HD they were selling them for 30% less than HD prices and in a few cases way less. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

You know I think that router is drill master and I have rounded a lot of edges with it and trimmed the back paneling on a few shelves I built. I would say don't expect much out of a drill that usually sells for 9.99 with a coupon...

I know my M12 Fuel drill/impact case will not close with my M12 brushed drill/Impact in it. I don't know if that helps at all...

I know most people clown HF, but I have had good luck with the tools I have bought there. I know what to expect and they have held up. I have a couple grinders(mostly used with cutoff wheels), the 10" Miter (best $90 I ever spent), flux core welder(I have only used it once), the trim router (great tool for $20), recip saw and that hammer drill. I am sure I have others I am forgetting too. I also have quit a few of their air tools that have held up well. I will say their regular cheap air impacts suck, I have a Kobalt that does a decent job.

I charge my batteries when I am done using the tool. My spares are always full. They don't have memory anymore so draining them to dead doesn't help anything. I have read a few articles that say charging more frequently actually helps on lithium batteries. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

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Chicago, it's maroon not black. Decent drill for under $30 with a coupon Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

I have drilled a few 1/2" holes in my concrete with the HF drill without any problems. It has done everything I need it to. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

Sounds like you need new batteries? Are they nicad or lithium? Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

I had a B&D corded hammer drill I used for years then I bought a HF hammerdrill last year. I bought a nice Milwaukee Magnum last week at an auction, I tested it but I haven't used it yet. I want to find a rotary hammer, I am just waiting for one at an auction. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

I use mine for tapcons, I haven't drilled the 1/2" holes for my post brackets yet. I plan to do a brushed M18 vs M12 Fuel vs HF corded just to see how each does. If your going to do a lot of concrete work get a rotary hammer, if your just running a few tapcons here and there the cordless hammerdrill is perfect. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

It looks like you also upgrade to a hammer drill and a XC battery so it is a much better deal for the extra $50 to 70. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

Another point I would like to bring up is what line do you currently use? I know my M18 brushed impact was so much stronger than my old B&D that it took some time to get used to it. I would check HD for M18 brushed sets on clearance to start out with and as someone mentioned, you can add on bare tools as needed. I guarantee you won't run into a job building decks that the brushed drill or impact can't handle. The run time on my batteries out lasts the charge time by far so I could run the tools all day without any issue. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

I have the brushed drill and impact plus the M12 brushed and fuel. They all do the job. The fuel is stronger, but I haven't ran into a single job that the brushed couldn't handle. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

Well said. You feel about Ryobi like I feel about Black and Decker 18v line. Cheap and they do the job. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

As these guys have mentioned, you don't need commercial duty cordless tools. I would like to mention I had Black and Decker tools for years and I built a lot of projects with them. If you take care of your tools the only maintenance items are the batteries. If my batteries were lithium I would still be using them, but I upgraded to Milwaukee. I started with the M18 brushed hammerdrill and impact set with the 3.0 batteries and the power blows away Black and Decker tools. That being said, you only need so much power to get a job done. I bought into the M12 line because I wanted the M12 Hackzall since it was more compact then the M18 and HD had a drill hackzall combo with 2 batteries for $99 so I couldn't beat it. After that I found a M12 impact kit at a discount store and it really opened my eyes to the M12 line. For most of the jobs I was doing it had more than enough power, until the TIACREW talked me in into buying the M12 Fuel hammerdrill and impact set! The M12 Fuel line has more power then my B&D 18v did by far. For running screws, drilling holes and other misc projects the M12 line is the way to go in my book. I find myself grabbing them over my M18 all the time and the only time I used my M18 recently was to drive 5/16" x 3.5" lags. The M12 probably could have, I had it setup with a different bit. Moral of the story, the 12v lines are not what they used to be and for running deck screws, drywall screws, etc the lighter weight and lower price, you can't beat it. Plus you can mix and match with brushed and brushless. If you go with Ryobi, Porter Cable, etc get the 18/20v lines, they will work fine for you too. If you want outdoor power equipment too go with Ryobi, I don't think PC has any OPE and I know Milwaukee doesn't. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

Canada only? That is super cheap! Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

Great information, thanks. I am still in the planning phase and the research I did about the epoxy paint was for my garage. I decided against it out there because I saw too many bad reviews and I would rather leave it bare. It's an old floor with oil spots here and there and I think it would be a huge project just to prep it. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

That would be a good tool for Protoolnut to add to his collection... can't beat that price! Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

Looks great! Are you doing an epoxy paint over the whole floor once you are finished? I have a basement floor project coming up soon too and I am debating on using the basic floor paint I used several years ago or doing it in epoxy. Etching the floor is the biggest concern I have since I am planning to do half of the floor at a time since it is our tv/game room where we spend most of our time. I don't really have room to empty the entire room to do the floor in one shot and I don't want to get acid on my furniture.

You need to do all of your videos from now on wearing that outfit...

I agree, dicks! I figured it was related to all of the red tape we have here to release a new product. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

Why does an American company release products overseas before the US? Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

I had a full set when I decided I wanted the radio charger. By that time it was discontinued and I had to buy one off Craigslist. The only one I could find in my area was listed with a full set and he wouldn't separate it so I bought them all. That is why I had so many duplicates. The drills with the removable chuck were awesome though. Plenty of power for deck or drywall screws and drilling. 99% of my patio was built with those plus a few corded tools as needed. The only complaint I had was with the circular saws. They are terrible with the Nicad batteries as were most brands. A few cuts here and there were ok, but don't count on much. I used the recip saws frequently when I was plumbing various parts for my pool and the new drainage system I designed for the patio and they worked fairly well. I used the jig saw a couple times, not enough to say if it was junk or not. All in all for what I paid for the tools they worked well for me. Now that I have Milwaukee I know the big difference between the two lines, but you only need so much power to complete a job. If your doing screws, small lags and drilling smaller holes B&D drills and impacts work fine, big lags and hole saw bits would be better with Milwaukee, Dewalt, etc.