astroboy Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 So my shop is part of a university and I have a beautifully heavy table saw from 1968. It's either a rockwell or a delta. I love it. However the powers that be hate the fact that there isn't a guard for it. So I have told them that they have to buy me a new saw. Possibly the sawstop. I'm a big believer that there's a difference between accident prevention and injury prevention. But it looks like the sawstop doesn't prevent accidents better than anything other nice saw. The concern of course, is whether or not it gives you a false sense of security. Mind you, I have never met a carpenter who gambles when it comes to a table saw. Anyway, My main concerns for a saw are dust collection, an unobtrusive guard and a riving blade, so I would be happy with a nice general. Is the sawstop as good a saw as a general?do they misfire? Does humidity affect the wood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 I Cannot comment as I don't own it Astro, but according to my fiancé when the garage is built and I get my shop up and going with a table saw, this is the one I'm getting. No ands ifs or buts. And yes humidity does affect wood, I've a problem storing it in my basement shop as it's wetter than a drowning rat half the time! I have to use it or lose it down there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR99 Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 You have to disable the Saw Stop mechanism on really wet wood. All power tools are dangerous, but certain tools are at another level like table saws ,or chainsaws. Even nail guns to a certain point a knot can bend a nail. I came close to having a nail in my finger once. If I had the money I would probably get a Saw Stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenK Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 Saw stops are as safe as a table saw can be. I truly believe that as I witnessed and incident in woodshop when I was in highschool. A kid was ripping a board with out the fence and loss control leading him to touch the blade with his finger. The blade shot down as it should and saved his hand. He was still left with a nice little gash but nothing some bandages and superglue couldn't fix. I would highly suggest it, especially in your case 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR99 Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 You should have a rule that if you trip the mechanisms that person is responsible for that and a new saw blade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfwjr Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 If you want to use a dado blade you will have to buy a cartridge for dado use. Like DR99 says if you trip the safety you have to purchase a new cartridge and blade. I think the cartridge is about $80.00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astroboy Posted September 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Charge them for the cartridge? I like that! "Wait, I almost cut my finger off and you're charging me $80? "No. You get to keep your finger and it only costs $80" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astroboy Posted September 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 You have to disable the Saw Stop mechanism on really wet wood. All power tools are dangerous, but certain tools are at another level like table saws ,or chainsaws. Even nail guns to a certain point a knot can bend a nail. I came close to having a nail in my finger once. If I had the money I would probably get a Saw StopI have the worlds driest shop. Wetness really isn't a factor. Dry skin is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR99 Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 I'm just saying you have to watch it with pressure treated wood. The shit they ship to Lowes and Home Depot is so wet sometimes its just insane once they snap the bands the shit just bows all over the place!!! It's so hard to find decent wood now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfwjr Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 Charge them for the cartridge? I like that! "Wait, I almost cut my finger off and you're charging me $80? "No. You get to keep your finger and it only costs $80"LOL...don't forget you get to buy a new blade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 I'm not real high on Sawstop, but that's mostly because the guy that invented it is a jackass.If I were buying a table saw today it would be a Bosch 4100 with the digital fence. 1968......it's probably a Delta/Rockwell. They were together at one point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astroboy Posted September 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 I'm just saying you have to watch it with pressure treated wood. The shit they ship to Lowes and Home Depot is so wet sometimes its just insane once they snap the bands the shit just bows all over the place!!! It's so hard to find decent wood now.luckily, I build scenery for theatre so I never use anything pressure treated. 90% of what goes through my saw is pine or 3/4 ply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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