DR99 Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Normally I would agree, but not in this case. I see starlock plus and max fizzling out first simply because people don't want to waste shelf space on a blade that only fits a handful of tools. Plain starlock will probably stick around for longer because they are compatible with OIS and Bosch will want to continue supporting its starlock tools. The problem comes in with the tools they're going to start selling that are only compatible with their select blades, and let's remember blades are a big expense for OMTs. The big problem with their blades is that the design is probably proprietary so you're stuck with either overpriced blades or knockoffs from companies so shady they don't care about the patent. To make matters worse, they simply can't produce starlock blades at the same price point as an OIS blade because of the 3D connection. It requires more steps, metal, precision, space, and packaging. No more bent, stamped piece of metal. These require some real manufacturing. The idea of better fitment is good, but OIS is solid enough that with a good tool and halfway decent blade you're not losing power to the blade slipping. If there was power loss this would be a great improvement, but you can't magic more power back from nonexistent power loss. I don't see any reason to get a tool using starlock over one using OIS. In fact I think it's a good idea to buy a Bosch OMT now because they make good OMTs and I'd rather get an OIS one before they switch to starlock. There's one area where starlock could be useful, and that's more powerful tools using larger blades or a larger sweep angle that would break the OIS interface. The problem is that's a whole different class of tool like comparing an impact wrench to impact driver. I wouldn't buy an impact driver with a 1/2 square head because bit sockets are complete overkill and overpriced for an impact driver's job. Sorry for the rant, but I was just getting happy about everything standardizing to toolless OIS interfaces when Bosch decided to throw a wrench in everything and announce starlock.Bosch wants to keep people buying their high margin blades, and this is a new patented interface. The only thing is I think the Multitool market is saturated now. Look at Milwaukee if they saw it as a market worth investing in we would see crazy brushless versions. They only have a meh M18, and an now ancient M12 with a tool change blade. After the Fein patent ran out the market flooded with copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmcmillan Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Bosch wants to keep people buying their high margin blades, and this is a new patented interface. The only thing is I think the Multitool market is saturated now. Look at Milwaukee if they saw it as a market worth investing in we would see crazy brushless versions. They only have a meh M18, and an now ancient M12 with a tool change blade. After the Fein patent ran out the market flooded with copies.I think milwaukee may actually release a pair of fuel OMT soon because a bunch of OMT accessories recently popped up on their website. Regardless I'm sure they're not happy to have designed a bunch of accessories only to have Bosch declare them obsolete (not that OIS will ever become obsolete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Let me know crew is this is a good deal? I found it on a deal app that I usually check out and they have this multi tool on sale supposedly but I even found it on amazon for same price so I'm just wondering if it's this price all the time or not, Thanks crew! http://m.homedepot.com/p/Bosch-3-Amp-Multi-X-Corded-Oscillating-Tool-Kit-31-Piece-MX30EC-31/205673468?AID=11210757&PID=361116&SID=ebs2d4066077d8816d1452487327306sbe&cm_mmc=CJ-_-361116-_-11210757&cj=trueMike. That is Eric's favorite multi tool and well worth it at that price. Plus the 3.0ah motor is a powerhouse. I have the MXH brushless and love the blade change. Absolutely awesome and Fein is actually going to switch to a similar mechanism when they go with the new blade pattern. If there is an adapter for the new blade styles (i didn't read the whole article...no boobies, no interest....) this would be a crazy deal for their corded machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Milwaukee m12 Hammerdrill kit was down to 132Sent from my LG-V410 using TapatalkJimbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnarlyCarl Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 You camp out at home depot jimbo? Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 At least twice a weekSent from my LG-V410 using TapatalkJimbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Pretty much get the hoodie free, they have a couple other bundles with the hoodie for m12 tools.JimboSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comp56 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 can't go wrong with either the hoodie or the saw.....good deal for $200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmcmillan Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 The price on the old fuel sets just dropped to $299 for drill and impact with two 4AH batteries and $229 for just the drill with two 3AH batteries.http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M18-FUEL-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-1-2-in-Hammer-Drill-Driver-XC-Battery-Kit-2604-22/203205419http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M18-Fuel-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Hammer-Drill-Impact-Driver-XC-Combo-Kit-2797-22/203639295 Of course you could also use their $150 off the gen2 fuel drill and impact kit for $399 combined with an extra charger for $59 to get the new fuel kit for $308. Then it looks like you could return the charger and keep the impact and drill kit for $270. Do the people who come up with these sales just not understand math? I'd still like to point out what a good deal that is to get $150 off the gen2 fuel kit with a bare tool add-on. That has me seriously considering a switch running dual Milwaukee and Makita. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnarlyCarl Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 $100 off five piece Ridgid toolshttp://thd.co/1LGjlKASent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR99 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Wow that's a smoking deal on the Ridgid kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR99 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 I have to be honest HD is so much better on deals than Lowes its sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnarlyCarl Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 I have to be honest HD is so much better on deals than Lowes its sad I know! And we had two HD close their doors couple years ago that were both 1/2 hr away from me, I miss themSent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmcmillan Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Looks like there are some glitches in homedepot.com because the dewalt mini blower shows as $70 from the search page but still $100 on the product page. Same goes for a ryobi corded OMT that's $20 on the search page and $40 on the product page. There's also this for a dollar. Who can pass it up at that price.http://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-Mini-Bucket-Jockey-82148N14/206038538 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnarlyCarl Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 I tried to order 8 if those bucket jockeys but it wouldn't let me unless I pick up in store. Bummer.Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khariV Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Ran across a pretty good deal on a Ryobi impact driver kit - $39. Includes a battery and overnight charger. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-ONE-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-1-4-in-Cordless-Impact-Driver-Kit-P1870/205336113 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Overnight charger?JimboSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khariV Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Overnight charger? Yeah - You've heard of 1 hour and 30 minute chargers? Well, the one that this one comes with takes all f$*%#$ night to charge your battery, and that's being generous. I got one as part of a brad nailer kit and all I can say is that while it DOES charge the batteries, I wouldn't want to have to sit around waiting for it. I think the 4.0s took 2-3 days to bring to 100% from empty. On the positive side, it won't overcharge and make them explode, so it's got that going for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Yeah - You've heard of 1 hour and 30 minute chargers? Well, the one that this one comes with takes all f$*%#$ night to charge your battery, and that's being generous. I got one as part of a brad nailer kit and all I can say is that while it DOES charge the batteries, I wouldn't want to have to sit around waiting for it. I think the 4.0s took 2-3 days to bring to 100% from empty. On the positive side, it won't overcharge and make them explode, so it's got that going for it.Didn't even realize that those Chargers were still around, go Ryobi!JimboSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmcmillan Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 If I were working hourly I'd love a battery that takes three days to charge. Anyone have any ideas about the glitch on homedepot.com? I don't particularly want either of those items, but I'm curious if they'd give you the lower price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Yeah the Dewalt rings up as $99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Wow, that is an awesome price on the X4 Kit! Lifetime warranty.....I would almost get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77Ford01 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Picked up the DeWalt blower ....$35.68 by using 20% HF coupon with the $150 promo ..[emoji41][emoji41][emoji41][emoji41] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77Ford01 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 DeWalt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Good deal for the Makita guys out there.JimboSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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