zinzander Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, Jronman said: oh more of a sheetmetal screwgun? I'm itching to get the new track saw but it has a few weeks yet before release. I wish it had bluetooth for the upcoming bluetooth vac. Maybe there will be a 60v tool connect adapter. I'm just stoked for new 20v grinders. I use cordless grinders as a cut off too as opposed to a grinder/sander as such and none of the dewalt grinders are ideal for that atm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jronman Posted June 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 Just now, zinzander said: I'm just stoked for new 20v grinders. I use cordless grinders as a cut off too as opposed to a grinder/sander as such and none of the dewalt grinders are ideal for that atm I have maybe used a grinder twice at work and it may have been the only times in my life. I should get one sometime. Might be useful at work. Add a backpack vac and a dust adapter, and you got a nice setup for work. Hopefully DeWALT makes one. I could see it being a dual battery flexvolt. Maybe could have a switch from 120v mode for extra cfm to 60v mode for more runtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zinzander Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 39 minutes ago, Jronman said: I have maybe used a grinder twice at work and it may have been the only times in my life. I should get one sometime. Might be useful at work. Add a backpack vac and a dust adapter, and you got a nice setup for work. Hopefully DeWALT makes one. I could see it being a dual battery flexvolt. Maybe could have a switch from 120v mode for extra cfm to 60v mode for more runtime. I do a lot of renovations so there are often random nails or old stripped screws or pieces of steal or pipe or reo that need to be cut. They are often in awkward places where getting 2 hands in on a tail style grinder just isn't possible or under a house or something. Dewalt kept on making them and I have kept refusing to buy one, I own two Bosch grinders a Hitachi and no dewalts even though I have 10 plus 20v and flex volt tools. What cordless grinders are good at in general is cutting not grinding off large amounts of material so I've found it odd that dewalt kept making cordless grinders in the tail style when literally every other brand realised that wasn't the right form for a cordless grinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Tail style? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 I think he's referring to a rat tail style vs a more barrel grip style. Which I would agree that the 20v grinder is pretty long and the hand guard makes it somewhat baulky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Framer joe Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Agree...we use it at work for a cut off tool also...foundation bolts placed wrong, Remo work....misc nails,screws,,..steel beam sent too long (although some oil and a good blade on a Milwaukee sawzall works fine)...this one looks much beefier.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmc Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Some new tools coming 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Adam Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Lmc said: Some new tools coming I need two of those fans now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Hmm. That fan is very reminiscent of my M18 one which I'm not incredibly fond of but the fan does have more thoughtful features; adjustable speed via a dial first and foremost. Also answers any any question regarding the concrete nailers power source; battery only. No cartridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrosBros82 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 I guess if anything, the fan is just another way to say you have all the same products that Milwaukee, Makita, etc. have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Framer joe Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Hope that fan is at least as powerful as the Ridgid fan..maybe more POWA?...if it's half as much like the Milwaukee that will .."blow" .. that concrete nailer is a nice tool,but I'll have to stick with Hilti because I need to nail to steel also...too bad.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Framer joe said: Hope that fan is at least as powerful as the Ridgid fan..maybe more POWA?...if it's half as much like the Milwaukee that will .."blow" .. that concrete nailer is a nice tool,but I'll have to stick with Hilti because I need to nail to steel also...too bad.. Seen pictures of it firing pins through a steel beam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 I've seen video of it firing through steel if I'm not mistaken. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Framer joe Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Oh,,no shit ! @Hugh Jass, @Bremon that video above just said concrete nailer...and I assume when you say pins you mean nails,with a head on them ?.....if so then one could nail a pierce of pressure treated lumber(2x8) to a 1/2" steel beam ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 17 hours ago, Framer joe said: Oh,,no shit ! @Hugh Jass, @Bremon that video above just said concrete nailer...and I assume when you say pins you mean nails,with a head on them ?.....if so then one could nail a pierce of pressure treated lumber(2x8) to a 1/2" steel beam ? I don't think it would have enough ass to fire through 2x and then steel. Actually I don't know of anything that does short of nitroglycerin, lol. But for attaching clips and whatnot, still very useful. Maybe if the steel was quite thin but I think it would lose too much inertia to penetrate much after 2x. As for the semantics of pin vs nail, same thing but Ramset calls them pin's thus so do I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Framer joe Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Thanks bro,,,,,ya we attach 2x? Pt stock to the top/sides of steel beams and shoot them on with "black" shot from Hilti can't even use the " red " shot which is for concrete ....but the vid did say it can shoot thro 2x pt stock to shoot a "plate" to the cement floor....but I didn't think it could into 1/2" steel without a .22 cal blank that Hilti uses.......thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jronman Posted July 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 I wouldn't be surprised if electricity was as powerful as explosion fasteners. use similar mechanics as a rail gun and it should work just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zinzander Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Hugh Jass said: I don't think it would have enough ass to fire through 2x and then steel. Actually I don't know of anything that does short of nitroglycerin, lol. But for attaching clips and whatnot, still very useful. Maybe if the steel was quite thin but I think it would lose too much inertia to penetrate much after 2x. As for the semantics of pin vs nail, same thing but Ramset calls them pin's thus so do I. need 6mm or about a 1/4 inch penetration into steel typically, as the heat generated helps bond the steel to the pin. It looks interesting but I suspect the more limited pin depth will make it quite niche. I currently use a Hilti 10 shot that shoots up to 3 inch nails with charges. If it can secure a 4 by 2 to concrete or steel or even something a bit thicker than a 4 by 2 it will be useful otherwise it is pretty specialist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 It'll go into concrete no problem, I just think heavy steel is going to be pushing it. Might stick but I don't think it would sink it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framer Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 any other tools in the works? i'm still waiting for a left blade saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comp56 Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 5 hours ago, framer said: any other tools in the works? i'm still waiting for a left blade saw. go to the Red Side........Milwaukee has a lefty saw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jronman Posted July 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 6 hours ago, framer said: any other tools in the works? i'm still waiting for a left blade saw. left blade is coming but will be worm/rear handle style instead of normal style. If it uses a worm drive mechanism or a similar mechanism to the rear handle x2 is unknown. A new vac is in the works that not only meets the silica requirements but exceeds those requirements to allow it to be adequate for mdf. I don't know if it will be the larger 8 and 10 gallon vacs or if it will be the smaller cordless vacs. Would be cool to see a full size 120v flexvolt vac that could also use the corded adapter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Framer joe Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 No Luke, don't join the Dark (red) Side ...let the force guide you to Flexvolt and 20v max......lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 @Jronman I'd bet money that there's no way in hell it uses a true worm drive mechanism. Way too much parasitic power loss and energy demand for that design on a cordless if my understanding is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmc Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 New dcn890 cordless pin nailer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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