Jronman Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 Makita has had 20 cell tools since 2013 and yet people still want bigger batteries for Makita tools. Current 15 cell batteries for the most part only date back to 2016 with flexvolt then others shortly after. Does Makita really need larger cells yet? Is 20 cells of 18650 really farther behind than 15 or even 10 of the 21700? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etc6849 Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 I am very happy with the 5AH batteries, but hopefully there will be a promotion on these when they come out. On 12/25/2019 at 2:26 PM, Fireguy116 said: I spoke to makita USA the other day about this issue and they told be they were working on a new 9ah battery. They weren’t sure on the release date but it is coming they said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiltiWpg Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 Why would I or anyone use a 12.0 on a drill or impact?... Not a chance, use the correct battery on the proper tool for the proper application. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T377A using TapatalkClose?Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToolBane Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 There’s a guy who’s missing the point. Sure, changing batteries too often is inconvenient but an impact driver with even a 3Ah battery just goes and goes and goes. I’m actually planning to get a pair of 3Ah batteries at some point for this specific reason, even while they are the exact same size as the 5Ah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 I'm all for matching the tool and battery for the task at hand. Then again it wasn't that long ago that dewalt xrp 18v batteries were the gold standard in cordless and a 9.0 pack isn't much different in size. Personally I'm glad those days are in the past and love the new smaller and lighter tools but it might not be quit as ridiculous to others as it seems to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiltiWpg Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 There’s a guy who’s missing the point. Sure, changing batteries too often is inconvenient but an impact driver with even a 3Ah battery just goes and goes and goes. I’m actually planning to get a pair of 3Ah batteries at some point for this specific reason, even while they are the exact same size as the 5Ah.My point was that people do use massive batteries on impacts. Reddawg didn't think anyone would. These are the same idiots who use impacts in panels and on trim work. Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddawg60 Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 People do all sorts of dumb things or should I say things that don't make alot of common sense, but the majority by far that use these impacts for a living won't put a 12ah battery on an impact. It's a moot point as far as I'm concerned. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordekyle Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 There’s a guy who’s missing the point. Sure, changing batteries too often is inconvenient but an impact driver with even a 3Ah battery just goes and goes and goes. I’m actually planning to get a pair of 3Ah batteries at some point for this specific reason, even while they are the exact same size as the 5Ah.I like the 5AH over the 4 because they are the same size. I no longer have any 3 Ah.I have a 2Ah Dewalt slim pack I use on an impact for drywall screws. At most, I’ll send a couple hundred screws.The slim pack worked good on the nail gun the other day when I had to send 70 2” ring shank nails on a Hardie siding repair job. Noticeably lighter.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboS1ice Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 There’s a guy who’s missing the point. Sure, changing batteries too often is inconvenient but an impact driver with even a 3Ah battery just goes and goes and goes. I’m actually planning to get a pair of 3Ah batteries at some point for this specific reason, even while they are the exact same size as the 5Ah.This is why I like the new slim higher output packs, the 4.0 on my Bosch impact last forever but keeps the weight down, just ordered a couple 3.0 HO Milwaukee slims too Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjwillac Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 From a recent Makita patent filing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToolBane Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 6 hours ago, Jjwillac said: From a recent Makita patent filing. Not going to sit on their laurels while Milwaukee is making light equipment it appears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjwillac Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 So looking at this again, specifically the number (32) and arrangement of cells. What would be the voltage and ah on this? The connection appears to be XGT, but the cell count doesn't seem to work with 40V? I might just be missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuasarCZ Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 IMHO, looking at connection strips 20/22, it's 16s2p configuration. 57.6V or 64Vmax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToolBane Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 It definitely won’t be XGT. XGT needs multiples of 10 cells and this is 32. 64V Max seems likely as Quazar suggests. 128V Max is also feasible for the number of cells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefcl100 Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 Not sure I am doing the math right, but dimensions would be at least 144x65x64 mm or 168x70x84 mm depending on the size of cells. Perhaps an OPE dedicated battery platform? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 I don't understand why don't tool manufacturers use li-po pouch cells. Cylindrical cells are just not the right kind of tech for power tools because of the low discharge currents. Plus they take up too much space. But li-pos pouches can discharge hundreds of amps because of the huge surface area, and they last much longer, like 80% after 1000+ cycles. Cylindrical cells only last 250-300 cycles at 80% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuasarCZ Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 I found some pictures on net. Parameters: 64Vmax 5.0 Ah 290Wh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 😲To Ma Poser Quasare! Good Find! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatIsAStupidTake Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 On 12/10/2019 at 5:40 PM, kat said: At this point it's clear that batteries have to be standardised. Same battery for all cordless tools. Governments need to step in and force them to abide to a standard. This is the stupidest take I have ever seen in my entire life. I went through the hassle of creating an account just to ridicule it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 An here we go, one year later, power tool manufacturers are finally switching to pouch cells! First are Dewalt and Flex, but rumours are the Makita will be switching too. I hope they won't be the last again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefcl100 Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 64 volt has been launched: https://www.makita.co.nz/search/64Vmax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefcl100 Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 On 5/1/2022 at 5:53 PM, kat said: An here we go, one year later, power tool manufacturers are finally switching to pouch cells! First are Dewalt and Flex, but rumours are the Makita will be switching too. I hope they won't be the last again Would the newer Stihl AP500s batteries fit into that category? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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