silverado79 Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 i'm hopefully going into the construction/home building trade within the next year and so far here's what i'm planning on getting dewalt Tstaks and tough boxesdewalt tool belt with pouchesm18 fuel hammer drill, circular saw, and sawzall20v max drill driver and impact driverKlein insulated pliers and wire stripperschannellock code blue pliers, screwdrivers and nutdriversestwing hammers vaughn superbarempire 48" and 72" levels, speed square, and carpenters squarekomelon 200' tapeirwin chalk reeland werner and louisville ladders if you have opinions or know of something better or if i left something out please reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_dave Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 In my opinion spending the money on insulated pliers will be a waste of your money. You'll likely never come across the need for them. Most electricians carry non-insulated because that's all they need. Just my two cents though. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Get yourself a track saw. I've got the Festool, but Dewalt, Makita and Grizzly make them too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regopit Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 If you are getting into construction and one day go out on your own you will be buying tools to the day you retire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan.M Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 Insulated pliers are a monster waste. If you insist on DIY electrical and you are not a electrician you will get hurt and or destroy something. Save your life and business and hire a electrician. That being said if you insist on DIY, electrical tape is 600 volt rated, so wrap any screwdrivers you want to use in live work with plenty of electrical tape and you will be fine for any residential setting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverado79 Posted June 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 Insulated pliers are a monster waste. If you insist on DIY electrical and you are not a electrician you will get hurt and or destroy something. Save your life and business and hire a electrician. That being said, electrical tape is 600 volt rated, so wrap any screwdrivers you want to use in live work with plenty of electrical tape and you will be fine for any residential setting. that's a cool idea I've never heard that before thanks for the input everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodstockva Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 I would suggest picking one line of cordless tools, since the batteries would be interchangeable. Batteries & Chargers are a HUGE expense when you are looking at tool kits VS bare tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan.M Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 that's a cool idea I've never heard that before thanks for the input everyoneIf you every do live work just check that everything is in working condition, if any insulating material is gone fix it or destroy it so nobody hurts themselves on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverado79 Posted June 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 I would suggest picking one line of cordless tools, since the batteries would be interchangeable. Batteries & Chargers are a HUGE expense when you are looking at tool kits VS bare tools. I was planning to them all in kits except for the sawzall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEtwidget Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Insulated pliers are a monster waste. If you insist on DIY electrical and you are not a electrician you will get hurt and or destroy something. Save your life and business and hire a electrician. That being said, electrical tape is 600 volt rated, so wrap any screwdrivers you want to use in live work with plenty of electrical tape and you will be fine for any residential setting.I can't recommend you wrap Tools with electrical tape and use them as "insulated", home or professional use. Although many contractors do it.. It's not best practice. More goes into insulated tools then just a coating of plastic and the effect can not be duplicated by wrapping electrical tape around a handle. The biggest problem is that you will try to use the tool on energized circuits... Never work on energized circuits! I would say generally you won't need insulated tools, but if you have the cash, they are good for safety.. Just in case you cut through or touch a live wire. A better way to spend your money is by buying a multimeter or voltage probe. It might save your life... Knowing when an outlet or fan is live. Nothing worse the falling off a ladder because of an unexpected shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan.M Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 I can't recommend you wrap Tools with electrical tape and use them as "insulated", home or professional use. Although many contractors do it.. It's not best practice. More goes into insulated tools then just a coating of plastic and the effect can not be duplicated by wrapping electrical tape around a handle. The biggest problem is that you will try to use the tool on energized circuits... Never work on energized circuits! I would say generally you won't need insulated tools, but if you have the cash, they are good for safety.. Just in case you cut through or touch a live wire. A better way to spend your money is by buying a multimeter or voltage probe. It might save your life... Knowing when an outlet or fan is live. Nothing worse the falling off a ladder because of an unexpected shock.I said that he should never work on energized circuits firstly. But if someone truly insists on working on a 120v receptacle live electrical tape will work perfectly fine. 600v tape is 600v insulated for a reason after all. If you cant trust the tape to insulate for 120v then who the hell would use it to insulated 600v? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEtwidget Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 I said that he should never work on energized circuits firstly. But if someone truly insists on working on a 120v receptacle live electrical tape will work perfectly fine. 600v tape is 600v insulated for a reason after all. If you cant trust the tape to insulate for 120v then who the hell would use it to insulated 600v?A pin hole will negate the voltage rating of anything that's insulated, even a proper tool. Every insulated tool requires regular inspection and testing to insure its ratting. Tape is rated but not for warping tools. I have my OSHA 30 and electrical safety, I'm not talking out of my ass over here. I deal with UL a few times a year and design electronics. You can do what ever you want to do, wrap what ever you want to wrap, but I'm going to cut you off and warn against anything that's not safe. The poster can use the info how he sees fit. As far as a 600v rating, don't forget to de-rate and remember that ratings are assumed for intended purpose under optimal conditions and do not guarantee when used improperly. Tape is not designed to take the kind of abrasion and sheer force a hand tool is subjected to, that's why OEM can't just wrap tools and sell them as rated. Sweaty hands and nicked tape = death. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan.M Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 http://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/82646902?src=pla&008=-99&pcrid=15557577904&007=Search&006=15557577904&005=21882504424&004=4409695744&002=2167139&mkwid=sJXegN7a0%7Cdc&cid=PLA-Google-PLA+-+Test_sJXegN7a0_PLA__15557577904_c_S&026=-99&025=c&item=82646902 I use these screwdrivers, they are tested to 10,000 VAC and certified for 1,000 VAC usage. Plus they have a carrying case to keep them safe. And they include the main tips you might encounter. Klein insulated pliers and these would make a good combo for any hot work you desire. Just we said just check to make sure they are insulated and functioning properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Off topic from the last ones is like to second woodstockva's comments about sticking to a line. It allows you to buy a single kit then expand your tool line without having to spend money on extra batteries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 So I can't roll my tools in Owens-Corning and install breakers on a live panel? It is insulation....right? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEtwidget Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 So I can't roll my tools in Owens-Corning and install breakers on a live panel? It is insulation....right?you can do what ever you want to do, but it won't be a safe thing to do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conductor562 Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 you can do what ever you want to do, but it won't be a safe thing to do!But when I get the fuck shocked out of me, can I sue the Pink Panther? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR99 Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 I don't think a panther has a whole lot of money. All they do is give him pink insulation to eat that's all he asks for in his contract. How do you think the Pink Panther got pink in the first place? He loves the taste of Owens Corning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tool Whore Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 I can't recommend you wrap Tools with electrical tape and use them as "insulated",I agree with this, it is dangerous especially for someone not used to working with electrical on a daily basis. I wrap some of my drivers but complacency has lead to blowing up the side of boxes etc. Especially the pliers, it is impossible to wrap them as tight as the manufacturer coats them. As an electrician I do carry Non-insulated tools but thats because working live isn't as common as dead. They are expensive but well worth the investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tool Whore Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 If you are going to be swinging a hammer often I would suggest buying a Stiletto Tibone, once you use it you'll never go back to an ordinary hammer again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tool Whore Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Oh yeah, before you put a hex on the whole damn thing; get the M18 JobSite radio with the beer buddy bottle opener (y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NERemodeling Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 If you are getting into construction and one day go out on your own you will be buying tools to the day you retire.This is very true! Don't expect to buy all the tools you need right off the bat, it's great to cover the basics but some tools should be purchased when the need arises especially when starting out. If you own your own business you will amass hundreds and hundreds of tools costing tens of thousands of dollars, and that's not getting crazy with big machinery and equipment. If starting a house building business first and foremost find a good set of subs. electrical, plumbing, hvac are things that you most likly can not do on a permitted job unless your specifically liscensed. other trades that you might want to consider subbing based on the fact that they are (in my opinion) high labor and some are low cost trades are; site work, concrete, insulation, drywall... roofing, while not the worst often requires a separate (much more expensive) liability insurance policy so consider subbing that too. One thing that you need to know, and I'm still learning is you can't do it all!As far as actual tools... few solid sets of saw horses are essential on almost every job, Trojan, while expensive, makes a Incredible set of horses and they will no doubt last you your entire career. . Also invest in a compressor and some nail guns. Framing/sheathing gun, trim guns... whatever you expect to be doing will most likely require lots of nails and nothing compares to the speed of a nail gun. Rolair makes a great compressor, the jc10 is super nice and unless you expect to be using multiple framing or roofing guns at the same time, should cover all your needs. . You could also consider ditching the compressor and going all cordless guns (maybe minus serious roofing)Good luckJohn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverado79 Posted September 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 well guys ive been thinking on this quite a bit i know am leaning probably 90% towards an auto tech due to the lack of home constructions in my area im looking into a tech school so now i need advice on what tools to get i think ill post a new topic about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR99 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Probably a good call Silverado cars always need to be worked on. Where as construction can be very dependent on the national or local economy. Even at the worst of times people will need transportation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicholasShetley Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 You better be ready to let go of some money. The cheapest kit for my school was $3100. None of the other options had any air tools as well. One kid did buy his hand tools from harbor freight though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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